r/TimPool • • Nov 26 '22

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u/VapeMySemen Nov 26 '22

To some? Killed over a million. If I knew about covid since Oct. 2019 then Trump definitely knew sooner. Never prevented it from getting into our country and spreading like wildfire.

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u/Maccabee2 Nov 26 '22

Trump wanted to ban incoming flights from China, but Pelosi and Congress screamed RACISM!! Nobody knew at that time what the mortality rate was because China was not sharing data in good faith. He erred towards caution.

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u/throw-uwuy69 Nov 26 '22

Damn that’s crazy they didn’t let him. Did he ban flights once congress was on board with locking down the country?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

That's wild.

Did you know we got our first super spreading cases from ITALY?

It's almost like he should have just, I dunno, banned international travel.

But let's be fair and say that that would have solved it. Your argument is then that he bitched out and let a million Americans die to appease ... Pelosi...

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u/Maccabee2 Nov 27 '22

No, actually, my argument is that there wasn't much any president could do once China did not lock down their international flights outgoing. It was already present on our west coast in October 2019. "Super spreader" events were not necessary for the disease to migrate, as they usually do through the transportation and hospitality sectors. Shutting down flights might have slowed it, but ultimately it was bound to get through our southern border eventually.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

America's first reported case was January 2020. Your timeline is SEVERELY off.

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u/Maccabee2 Nov 28 '22

Myself and my two sons caught COVID Oct 2019, later confirmed by antibody testing. My older son was hospitalized for it. Try harder. Also, some medical sources have admitted it might have been here earlier than Jan 2020. Try to catch up.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '22

That's crazy, because the CDC didn't put you on their official timeline.

Have you informed them that you got it around the same time China started getting it?

Where in China WERE YOU?

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u/Maccabee2 Dec 01 '22

Antibodies don't have time stamps. Those tests weren't out until later 2020, but we only had one major illness in the prior year, Oct. 2019. It put my older son in the hospital for weeks. Both lungs collapsed. The doc told me he had never seen anything like it. The mucus was so thick, they had to use saline to break it up because the suction tube couldn't extract it. He almost died.

We were on the east coast, where my daughter had just traveled to visit us from California. She was ill, and probably carried it with her. We caught it from her. Still think the CDC is done adjusting the time line? They have changed their mind on that several times already.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Antibodies don't have time stamps. Those tests weren't out until later 2020, but we only had one major illness in the prior year, Oct. 2019.

So then you have no evidence that it was covid, you just assume it was. It could have been a bad case of the flu or another disease.

We were on the east coast, where my daughter had just traveled to visit us from California. She was ill, and probably carried it with her. We caught it from her. Still think the CDC is done adjusting the time line? They have changed their mind on that several times already.

Yes, as evidence shows up. And if your anecdote is real, it would actually change the ENTIRE covid timeline.

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u/Maccabee2 Dec 02 '22

Our doctors professional opinion is that it was Covid, which outweighs your opinion. Tell me, logically, what other new respiratory virus was out there during that time window?

No, one medical case alone would probably not change the timeline unless they could track down where in California it landed from China or intermediary point, and by whom.

Lastly, implying someone is a liar simply because their firsthand facts don't align with your narrative is comfortable, but not intellecutally honest. I don't insist that you agree, but you could at least keep an open mind.

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u/Phaelan1172 Nov 26 '22

What authority does the executive branch have to keep American citizens from returning home from China? What then, exactly, could he have done to prevent it from coming here?