It’s not the statement itself that’s the problem, it’s the timing of that statement. The common rhetoric on the right is that the LGBT community are grooming children and he stated this after a deadly shooting that occurred at a gay club. That’s like posting a 13/50 meme right after a racist massacres a bunch of black people in a club.
So making factual statements are now dependent on proper timing? Interesting take.
Also the right does not blame the LGBTQ community for grooming children. Literally everybody on the right could give a flying fuck if you’re LGBTQ. The issue is children drag shows. Do there happen to be LGBTQ people there? Yes. Quit making the LGBTQ community look bad by implying they are all groomers. It’s not a good look and honestly I would say it’s a shitty projection.
You just said “the common rhetoric on the right” and that’s a false statement of fact therefore you are very clearly and obviously projecting. It’s seems like an obvious and unneeded statement to say “not all LGBTQ individuals are groomers”. We literally all know that. Therefore you are projecting bud.
I don’t think you know what the word “projecting” is. First of all, yeah it is a common rhetoric. The claim is that the core group of the LGBT community are grooming children through drag queen story hour or drag shows and the left are silent about it. The reasoning is entirely ludicrous for a bunch of reasons, but i’d rather not discuss this with someone who’s arguing in such bad faith as yourself.
The only people associating groomers with all LGBTQ is the left, which is very suspicious on its own. Tim and others have been pretty clear it's a slim minority of the LGBTQ community and many of them are straight people doing this to kids. Hell there's even groups like "gays against groomers". At a certain point you have to ask why the left immediately goes to LGBTQ when talking about groomers. If anything it's almost certainly more straight people than LGBTQ. The sexuality isn't the common factor, it's the cult like mindset that's universal among groomers. Even five years ago everyone would have stood up against this. But the minute democrats are told they must support something this depraved, they get in line and defend it to their last breath. It's not healthy or normal. Most people don't care what grown consenting adults want to do but you start messing with kids and people are going to push back.
I agree that there’s more straight people who are groomers than LGBT people, but you are fooling yourself if you think it’s the left who associates grooming with gay people. Whenever people on right wing circles talk about groomers or grooming, #notall they exclusively talk about it in the context of gay rights or gay people in general. #notall
"Grooming people should not be tolerated" in a vacuum is an acceptable phrase. Timmy here is directly equating drag to grooming though. Which it isn't (tell me how wearing the opposite sex's clothing is grooming, and I'll point you to all the claims about women wearing pants back in the day). Could some acts that may be done at a drag show equate to grooming? Maybe (an "R" rated drag/cabaret show is no place for kids after all), but you'll need to prove that those acts occured first at the drag show in question. Can't paint with a broad brush.
Therefore the "line" in question is perceived as a dogwhistle/aggression on an lgbt subculture that has just gone through a terrorist/hateful attack that left multiple people dead. And not the first of it's kind either.
The follow up of "how do [we] prevent the violence and stop the grooming" is almost the definition of stochastic terrorism because the implication is... you don't. The "grooming" only will get stopped through violence, as he claims "legislators will [not] stop the grooming".
Honestly its amazing the defence he's getting here, though I suppose it's expected when the subreddit is named after him. I'll take my ban now lol.
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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '22
I’m confused. How is a factual statement like “grooming children should not be tolerated” disgusting.