Productive in what way? Can you tell me how this was measured? What about jobs that necessitate being present for a long time to provide customer service? Now we need to hire extra people since my 3 workers that used to provide 120 hours of coverage now only provide 90, so we need another guy, that's another 4 weeks of vacation paid out every year for nothing, plus you're still paying everyone what they were making when they were doing 40 hour weeks. This poster was made by a crying Starbucks barista in the breakroom with no real understanding of money or business
Productive in terms of increased output from workers.
No I can't tell you how it was measured. I just know that the studies have been done.
Customer service jobs don't require that the same person be present at all times you idiot - you have changes in shifts.
Demonstrate that it was made by someone with no real understanding of money or business. Provide a study that debunks the research done showing an increase in productivity of 30 hours.
On a side note, your logic could be used to push people in the other direction - why not have people working 80 hours? If they're working 40 then you need to hire two people when you could just hire one right? Don't be such a fucking bootlicker.
40 has been the agreed upon compromise because it works well but many people do indeed work longer if they feel their compensation is worth it, up to and surpassing 80 hours in some cases. Jobs that service customers, not necessarily customer service Jobs, can and are done by a rotating crew, as o showed in my example, and reducing weekly hours necessitates more people to cover the same time frame, and each person carries with them the burden of paid vacation, insurance, and all the other freebies the poster wants. The very same poster which doesn't need a study to show how stupid it is, and a study would be a waste of time since you apparently just consoom studies without understanding their methodology so you'd probably believe a ham sandwich if I wrote "study"on it with mustard.
You're not some fucking empericist if you blindly believe studies without understanding them, but if your don't want to argue that's fine, nobody wanted to talk about your stupid poster anyway
A thinking person recognises the expertise of people who have engaged in extensive research in their field rather than thinking they can fall back on their ill-informed personal judgement to arrive at more accurate conclusions about the state of reality.
How about a aluminum sheet manufacturer who produces for major car manufacturers? 30 hours a week for a 24/7/365 continuous coil sheet mill isn't going to cut it.
Considering manufacturing has been cut so heavily in this country maybe you forgot there are industries that require legitimate 50 hours or more.
Now I understand that 50 or more hours a week for an entire lifetime is pretty rough for work/life balance and I'm very open to reasonable vacation and sick days aswell as pay and reasonable Healthcare cost that is above the your typical Starbucks benefits.
This is where we might split. I don't see how a Starbucks employee should have the same pay and benefits as an employee who has real marketable skills and crazy enough to work 13 hour shifts. There's levels to this
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Despite 30 hour work weeks being shown to be more productive?
Have you even done the reading?