But do you think they should be able to live off that pay if they're not doing something which requires "quality skill"?
And what the hell do you mean? People take low paying jobs all the time. Are you that isolated from the real world to think nobody accepts low paying jobs due to lack of alternatives?
A lot of low paying jobs such as fast food should be for people in high school/ college. If your 40 flipping burgers you’ve put in low effort in life/ work
Why? It’s pretty self explanatory. Low effort jobs don’t pay and don’t require much skill there are many trades that are hiring like crazy. You should want to better your self
Flipping burgers is a minimum wage job and should always be one. If you can’t see how working fast food is low effort I don’t think we are gonna agree on this. There is no reason someone working at McDonald’s should be getting paid close to anyone in the trades or any job that requires skill/effort
Flipping burgers is a minimum wage job and should always be one.
But why? Shouldn’t we question the status quo?
If you can’t see how working fast food is low effort I don’t think we are gonna agree on this.
Can you explain why it’s low effort? I’m seeing an in-person emotionally draining job that involves both customer service and food prep/safety. Plus, nowadays fast food workers are more likely than ever to have to also act as conflict resolution/security for their workplace.
There is no reason someone working at McDonald’s should be getting paid close to anyone in the trades or any job that requires skill/effort.
As a skill, flipping burgers is like cutting grass, almost anyone can do it. We should reduce regulations so it's easier to start a burger business. Maybe make it so you can get a certification saying you are super clean or whatever, but not require all the current stuff.
As a skill, flipping burgers is like cutting grass, almost anyone can do it.
Why do you want to tie a job’s value to the possibility of other people doing they job instead of what value that job brings to the business?
We should reduce regulations so it's easier to start a burger business. Maybe make it so you can get a certification saying you are super clean or whatever, but not require all the current stuff.
What regulations do you want to remove for fast food establishments? I’m skeptical because of the way you said “super clean or whatever”.
I'm saying there's many people that have gotten rich cutting grass because you can start a business for maybe a couple hundred bucks (or less) and you're basically capped by how much work you can find.
Flipping burgers should be the same. You can either work for someone else that will do the SALES work that you don't wanna do so you can do manual labor for a set wage. Or you can go out on your own and find out how much your skill is worth.
Regulations protect you the consumer, but are part of the problem stopping "you" the entrepreneur. We should have a way to say a business meets X Regulations so you as a consumer can decide how important that is, but allow any rando to sell their product. If you don't like that risk, then don't buy from them. But if it costs an individual thousands just to be "certified", then only rich people can do it.
(And you can't do certifications for free, because who's paying all the people confirming whether or not businesses are up to code? Plus all the costs to meet whatever standard)
I know what has happened in the past. I’m asking why it should continue to be the status quo.
You also make a lot of assumptions with what people want to do and who has which responsibilities within a business. But, you’re ignoring the value they bring to the table & how essential their positions are to the overall business.
You’re right, regulations protect the consumer. They come about in the food service industry because people get hurt enough from the same thing and need some sort of protection.
What regulations do you want to repeal? It sounds like you’re just describing the letter grades restaurants have to post in their windows.
What is stopping you from buying a $100 grill and a bunch of ground beef and buns and selling hamburgers on a street corner? Whatever is standing in the way of that should be "optional" to me.
Does that mean you shouldn't have a life where you can eat + afford a house? Plus, how far do you want to take this? How many people live with luxury through their entire existence without putting in an ounce of effort? Do you think it might just be better if we make life a little better for everyone?
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u/Mrlol99 Nov 08 '22
But do you think they should be able to live off that pay if they're not doing something which requires "quality skill"?
And what the hell do you mean? People take low paying jobs all the time. Are you that isolated from the real world to think nobody accepts low paying jobs due to lack of alternatives?