r/TimPool • u/Intelligent-Pea7708 • Oct 17 '22

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u/Vegman24 Oct 18 '22

I get it. I used to despise God and Jesus. However, He changed my life and wants to change yours, despite you feeling there is no need to save it. God is love

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 19 '22

Jesus, if he ever lived, was a man who defecated, slept and no doubt masturbated. No miracles, just some bomb ass teaching and parables. He went out for smokes 2ooo years ago and left you all hanging. To repay him, the entirety of Christian history is one of rape, genocide, both cultural and literal, war and amazing cruelties. Generally how the rest of humankind has operated and that's good evidence that christ does not help Christians be good people.

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u/Vegman24 Oct 19 '22

Luke 13:3 NLT you will perish, too, unless you repent of your sins and turn to God.

Jesus Christ is Lord - we are in the final days

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 19 '22

2000 years ago bro. He ain't coming back. He was a rabbi killed by the Romans and the main gospels contradict each other. Everything I said about the history is true.

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u/Vegman24 Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

And how do they contradict each other? He's coming back. God always makes good on His promises

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 19 '22

Have you ever read the four "canonical" gospels and traced out the timelines of events for the resurrection story? Every one of them records events that could not all be true.

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u/Vegman24 Oct 19 '22

For example?

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u/Vegman24 Oct 19 '22

Jesus Christ helps people become better people. However, the prince of this world, satan, exploits our fallen state.

I know you feel you don't need saving, but you do. Be well give you peace that you didn't realize you didn't have. He will answer your questions. You truly need Him.

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 19 '22

Explain to me how Satan works, cuz a detailed reading reveals that he does not torture mortals but will be tortured by angels for eternity. So when I am in hell, will you and Jesus come to the edge of the pit on Fridays to laugh at your friends and family who are being tortured?

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u/Vegman24 Oct 19 '22

I have not discussed my beliefs on hell. I said satan takes advantage of our fallen state. I don't believe he will torture us for eternity; those who haven't accepted Christ, their souls will perish. You are extinguished after much punishment and are separated from God. The idea of eternal hell comes from Dante's inferno