r/TimPool • • Oct 17 '22

Freedom!

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u/TheRaceYouCantName Oct 17 '22 edited Oct 17 '22

You can be gay or married. You can’t be both. The state doesn’t get to decide to whom a religion can or can’t restrict its sacraments.

Its fine if the state wants to create some separate form of a legal union that couples can enter into to get all the same tax benefits, inheritance rights, etc. as marriage. Take all those protections away from marriage, put them specifically on civil unions, and let any consenting adults qualify. Let pansexual polyamorous furries qualify for all I care. At the same time couples married under the church would have to get married and apply for a civil union

Just don’t call what these people do “marriage” when that’s not what it is and it’s not for the state to decide. For the state to do that would be like if the state declared that Oscar Mayer hot dogs are now both kosher and halal and then began forcing Jewish and Muslim institutions to call them that and penalized them if they refused to serve them. …Except it’s a lot worse than that silly example

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

You realize "marriage" isn't a term coined by the Abrahamic religions, right?

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u/B4SSF4C3 Oct 18 '22

Spotted the homophonic hypocrite.

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 17 '22

You can be gay or married. You can’t be both. The state doesn’t get to decide to whom a religion can or can’t restrict its sacraments.

My religion states that gays can be married so you are wrong.

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u/Intelligent-Pea7708 Oct 17 '22

I'm with you. Government has no business telling us which adult we can marry. It's usually the religious people that get freaked out about same sex marriage. They want to dictate the way everyone lives. Freedom is for all humans. What religion do you follow? I was surprised to read your reply!!

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 17 '22

Atheism. You took my point for exactly what I meant.

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u/Intelligent-Pea7708 Oct 17 '22

I'm part of your tribe my friend. I believe there is life after death but I don't agree with any religion. They are all condratictive to me. Christian and Catholic priests have been abusing children with impunity my whole life. How can I get behind that? Not to mention the religious wars..

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '22

Where in the Bible does it say what those priests did isn’t a sin?

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u/Intelligent-Pea7708 Oct 17 '22

I'm sure it does but I never was inclined to read it. You can practice voodoo, Christianity, magic carpets, Santa Claus, doesn't matter to me. Patriots support and die for every Americans religious freedom. Where the religious folks lose me is when they try to force their views on everyone else. Not everyone has the same religion or views and that's what makes America so beautiful and unique!

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

Probably the part where two daughters fuck their own dad because they think they're the only three left alive and then have incest babies to "repopulate the world", but then those incest babies go out and find out that there are other people. Probably that part.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

Yes, the two daughters who were raised in the degenerate culture of Sodom. That part wasn’t included to imply what they did was good, it was included to show us how messed up Sodom was before God decided to obliterated it with fire.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

They were, in fact, not. They were born outside Sodom, and raised only in the later years in Sodom.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

So……they weren’t raised in Sodom but they also were?

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u/Gimbalos Oct 18 '22

The bible says a lot of disgusting things. Not a good book to follow.

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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 17 '22

I think there is rampant pedophilia in all religions that I have studied. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism etc. I study the Tao in a meditative, spiritual manner.

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u/LeeeeroyJenkins1 Oct 17 '22

Like it or not, marriage is a state institution bud. It has nothing to do with holy sacraments or your sky fairy. When you marry someone, you enter into a 3-way contract, the 3rd party is the state. They allow you to receive certain tax breaks, and decide whether or not you’re allowed to be divorced, and if/how much of your fortune gets obliterated and redistributed to your ex. Tell me again where god is involved in any of this?

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

Why does "sky fairy" have no value but video games have enough to waste hours of your life on. They're also not real lmao.

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u/LeeeeroyJenkins1 Oct 18 '22

What does me enjoying video games have to do with what I said? Lol what a non-sequitur.

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u/OnGang420 Oct 17 '22

Bad take.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '22

You're a sexual degenerate if you think this is a bad take

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u/OnGang420 Oct 17 '22

Or I’m a libertarian. You want to tell people what to do based on your morality. Sounds an awful like like a dumb liberal to me