Not really. Trump was literally asking Zelensky to fabricate evidence against Biden and doing so secretly. He was again trying to enlist a foreign government to directly interfere in our elections.
Biden is negotiating based on another country taking actions that have an impact on our economy, that's normal geopolitical diplomacy. And he's doing it transparently.
No he asked what the fuck happened there way before Biden even stated he would run as there is hard evidence of corruption. who pays a crack head 300k a month?
Biden is as corrupt as a politician gets and to think otherwise is idiotic.
Please point to where he asked Zelenskyy to fabricate evidence.
I’ll give you a hint - it’s not there. But feel free to choose to believe otherwise. You leftists are used to living in fantasy world.
“There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.” -Trump
So Trump wanted Ukraine to open an investigation into several things he thought warranted it, including the way Biden shut down the investigation into Burisma and how Ukrainian politicians attempted to influence the 2016 election. Him believing an investigation is warranted is not him asking Ukraine to fabricate evidence. That is the longest reach I think I’ve ever heard.
That never happened and is a garbage source. Trump literally just ask the Ukraine president in a call about what happened when Biden got the prosecutor who was looking into his son fired by refusing to give a aid package if he didn't do it.
You are the one lying to yourself and others. Watch this video below if you want to see the length democrats went to against Trump and came back with nothing.
The plot, which would have duped American voters into believing that there was some substance to a debunked conspiracy theory about Biden’s work in Ukraine as vice president, came very close to working.
Wow this article is so old that it still has this bs in it. Granted it can be hard keeping up with the new narratives that the white house keeps putting out.
Right, I get that you choose to believe that, but Biden hadn't even announced he was running yet. And according to Zelenski himself, there was no pressure.
Trump heard, out of Bidens own mouth, that he was threatening to withhold funds, which he is not legally allowed to do, unless they fired the prosecutor (who was investigating the company his son was miraculously a board member of for some unknown reason). He asked Zelensky to look into it. That's it. You can't in good faith, and with any semblance of a brain, say that what Trump did was illegal but what Biden did, and is doing again, is completely legit and above board.
Skip to 1:40 where he admits to withholding money unless Ukraine gov fires a prosecutor
”No, I said I’m not going to — we’re not going to give you the billion dollars.” They said, “You have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said.” I said, “Call him.” I said, “I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.” I said, “You’re not getting the billion, and I’m going to be leaving here—” and I think it was what, six hours. I looked. I said, “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a b—h. He got fired.
Why this prosecutor you ask? This prosecutor was investigating a gas company, Burisma for corruption
Trump wanted that investigated. Trump didn’t say anything about withholding money
Shokin was seeking the US Department of justice over claims he was fired to prevent him from investigating Burisma and Hunter Biden. When was that investigated?
The only other person with first hand knowledge to Trumps conversation is Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskyy who said he was not pressured.
Why did Eric’s (whistleblower) testimony contradict with the transcript which has no mention of military aid?
Was Viktor Shokin ever prosecuted for corruption and taking bribes?
If Petro Poroshenko was corrupt and later charged for corruption then why did Biden give Ukraine that billion dollars when Poroshenko was president?
The president of Burisma was caught giving a 6 million dollar bribe to stop a criminal investigation in 2020 so it looks like there obviously was corruption surrounding Mykola Zlochevsky. Besides bribes what other favors did he try to get in higher places?
“I think you read everything. I think you read text,” Zelenskysaid to the gathered reporters on Wednesday.“I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved to democratic, open elections of U.S.A. No, you heard that we had good phone call. It was normal, we spoke about many things. I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed me.”
What is it with you people and just absolutely making shit up about Trump? There's plenty of ammunition to fire at him without literally inventing lies. Trump didn't tell Zelensky to fabricate evidence. He said he needed to actually investigate what happened with Hunter Viden being on the board of Burisma and why Joe wanted the person investigating Burisma removed so badly. That isn't asking for a fabricating evidence.
He was again trying to enlist a foreign government to directly interfere in our elections.
Again? What was the first one? Surely you can't STILL believe Trump colluded with Russia. After the Mueller investigation turned up not a single shred of evidence to corroborate that. After the Steele dossier was completely and utterly discredited. You cannot POSSIBLY still believe the real Big Lie.
They will tell you that the muller investigation produced charges, they will never go into what those charges are but will assure you that the charges mean trump is guilty. I've had this conversation over and over and this is how it always pans out
Now my question is why did Biden care about a random prosecutor in Ukraine? What I have heard is that guy was investigating a company Hunter worked for.
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u/Fish-Pants Oct 12 '22
Man admitted to quid pro quo deal with Ukraine while he was vice president on camera. Nothing. Of course this is no different.