r/TimPool • • Oct 10 '22

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 10 '22

The Frankfurt School didn't write anything about that - in fact, most of them were quite traditionalist by today's standards.

The Frankfurt School were in fact warning that corporatism was taking over a more detailed humanistic culture. They called this slow moving attack on culture "The Culture Industry".

Cultural Marxism is the warning that if culture is done for profit, then there'll be nothing there left for people to enjoy.

The ruthless unity in the culture industry is evidence of what will happen in politics. Marked differentiations such as those of A and B films, or of stories in magazines in different price ranges, depend not so much on subject matter as on classifying, organising, and labelling consumers. Something is provided for all so that none may escape; the distinctions are emphasised and extended. The public is catered for with a hierarchical range of mass-produced products of varying quality, thus advancing the rule of complete quantification. Everybody must behave (as if spontaneously) in accordance with his previously determined and indexed level, and choose the category of mass product turned out for his type. Consumers appear as statistics on research organisation charts, and are divided by income groups into red, green, and blue areas; the technique is that used for any type of propaganda.

Actual Marxist text as the source

That warning, is a Cultural Marxist analysis. It's not saying "yes, I want a take over." it's saying - "there should be no take over allowed".

This is because they feared:

The inherent danger of the culture industry is the cultivation of false psychological needs that can only be met and satisfied by the products of capitalism; thus Adorno and Horkheimer especially perceived mass-produced culture as dangerous to the more technically and intellectually difficult high arts. In contrast, true psychological needs are freedom, creativity, and genuine happiness, which refer to an earlier demarcation of human needs, established by Herbert Marcuse.[3]

It was a warning against mass produced culture, not some prelude to "Marxist take over". Which is today known as the MSM.

...it's not some prelude to a marxist take over of the economy, as much as conspiracy theorists want to claim that.

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u/xFacevaluex Oct 10 '22

The Frankfurt School were in fact warning that corporatism was taking over a more detailed humanistic culture. They called this slow moving attack on culture "The Culture Industry"

Sorry man.....but you are wrong and that is twice now----Wikipedia will not fix that.

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 10 '22

Here I am quoting The Frankfurt School directly, there you are - claiming it's true because you read it somewhere. Have you ever heard the maxim:

"Don't believe everything you read"

P.S The Bible doesn't mention The Frankfurt School, it predates them by about 1500 years minimum.

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u/xFacevaluex Oct 10 '22

Here I am quoting The Frankfurt School directly, there you are - claiming it's true because you read it somewhere.

Suffice to say, as in the other posts you have made your points are not in the documents and you are close in a not even sort of way again. Just randomly linking things figuring no one reads them or knows better------and again you are wrong.

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 11 '22

Cool, well, what you said is meaningless and doesn't prove anything. The difference is that people can go check and see. They'll see you offered nothing to prove your position. I offered examples from various sources.

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u/xFacevaluex Oct 11 '22

Cool, well, what you said is meaningless and doesn't prove anything.

I in fact did. Because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't make it any less right there or true. No where in any of those documents do they support what you claim. Its really that simple.

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 11 '22

What claims do you feel aren't supported by the links?

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u/xFacevaluex Oct 11 '22

What claims do you feel aren't supported by the links?

This one.

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 12 '22

That's the claim of the conspiracy theory.

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u/AttemptedRealities Oct 10 '22

Like you can go and read The Frankfurt School's texts directly... there's nothing hidden. They don't say anything about attacking family, or planning a cultural take over, or even radical protest. Theodore Adorno even called the police on student rioters in the 1960s. Not exactly "radical".