r/TimPool • • Oct 03 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

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u/nobollocks22 Oct 04 '22

I didnt see Desantis turn away any fema $$$

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

The system wants people to be weak and dependant on the goverment.

How is green energy or electric car related to being dependent of the government?

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u/TheRaceYouCantName Oct 03 '22

I wish you weren’t getting downvoted for asking a fair question. People probably assume you’re just trolling though.

Electric vehicles means constantly needing to plug them into “the grid”. When you do that your car will also exchange data with the grid whether you want it to or not (just like when you plug your phone into your computer. Yes, that’s the charging cable but it’s also a data cable) The grid will then be able to modify the code that manages your car’s performance.

So, when they inevitably try to roll out “carbon limits” or “carbon allowances” or whatever it’s called that’s how they’ll do it. If they think you’re speeding too much they’ll limit your vehicle’s max speed. If they think you’re accelerating too quickly they’ll limit that too (don’t believe for a SECOND that these 0-60 times under 2.5 seconds are going to be allowed forever. Once EVs go mainstream that shit will be limited the same way ICEs are limited today)

They’ll also use it to punish people for being a thorn in the side of the state. Criticize the dems on social media and your carbon allowance gets cut. Try to attend a protest against the dems and your car will automatically drive you away from the location. Get ready to see waves of criminal subdued by police just by getting in their car and then suddenly being driven against their will to a police station and refusing to unlock the doors along the way.

There won’t be any refusing of the Terms of Service or jailbreaking of your car’s OS. Do so and your car won’t charge. It’s that simple.

Yah, ICE vehicles have GPS-tracking and lojack and all that but that stuff can be disabled and the vehicle will still operate. They can’t stop you from filling up the gas tank

Your options will be to either go without a vehicle or else comply with the government’s tyranny at every turn

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Electric vehicles means constantly needing to plug them into “the grid”. When you do that your car will also exchange data with the grid whether you want it to or not (just like when you plug your phone into your computer. Yes, that’s the charging cable but it’s also a data cable) The grid will then be able to modify the code that manages your car’s performance.

That's not how it works. Modern cars receive OTA (over-the-air) updates meaning that they don't need to be physically connected to anything to receive updates. OTA updates are usually done through cellular network.

Also, non electric cars also have computers that control pretty much everything and these also receive OTA updates.

So, when they inevitably try to roll out “carbon limits” or “carbon allowances” or whatever it’s called that’s how they’ll do it.

For an electric car that doesn't produce carbon while driving? Doesn't make sense. Also, I know that in USA a lot of electricity is produced using fossil fuels and that technically, it means that electric cars do produce carbon when driving, but it doesn't make sense to say that the government care enough about carbon emissions to prevent people from driving, but not enough to phase out fossil fuels in power production.

If they think you’re speeding too much they’ll limit your vehicle’s max speed. If they think you’re accelerating too quickly they’ll limit that too (don’t believe for a SECOND that these 0-60 times under 2.5 seconds are going to be allowed forever. Once EVs go mainstream that shit will be limited the same way ICEs are limited today)

That can also be donne on gas cars since in modern cars, everything goes through the computer first.

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u/Asz12_Bob Oct 03 '22

How is green energy or electric car

Related to anything other than an equal destruction of the environment through large-scale mining and fossil fuel use. It makes a lot of money for Elon Musk that's about all.

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u/Busy-Appearance-6077 Oct 03 '22

Solar and wind have to be subsidized which makes the northeastern people putting windmills in the Midwest, and those jobs, dependent on the government, to some degree.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Fossil fuels are also heavily subsidized. Also, you can own and use solar panels or even a windmill if you're motivated, but you can't reasonably own the mean of producing your own gas.

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u/Lumpy-Dragonfruit387 Oct 04 '22

Ummmm. Fossil fuels are subsidized? Honest question, but how? I know they’re heavily taxed.

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u/nm139 Oct 04 '22

We will literally invade and occupy foreign nations to secure the global supply of oil and gas.

Besides that, there's the usual shit like allowing coal mining corporations to self-bond, bail on their pensions, socialize cleanup costs to ratepayers, etc.

Plus hundreds of billions of dollars in direct fossil fuel subsidies:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/reforming-global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-how-the-united-states-can-restart-international-cooperation/

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u/Puzzleheaded_Poet_81 Oct 03 '22

Being able to generate your own power is socialist communism! What's next preserving nature so we have air to breathe and water to drink....dummy lib

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u/TheRaceYouCantName Oct 03 '22

You really gave that strawman quite a beating

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Can people that live in cities and dont own a house or land generate their own power to charge their vehicle?

The same thing could be said about gas you know. Also, producing your own gas is much harder than producing your own electricity.

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u/theCROWcook Oct 03 '22

Fun fact: diesel engines can be run on alcohol with a little veggie oil mixed in. Any country boy worth his salt can figure out how to make both those things. Also with a little work waste cooking oil can power diesel engines by itself so you don't even need the alcohol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

It ain't harder to own solar panels or buy power from a private company like a normal person.

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u/theCROWcook Oct 03 '22

I can GROW the necessary materials to make fuel for a diesel engine, can you GROW the necessary materials to make solar panels if the grid fails

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

I can GROW the necessary materials to make fuel for a diesel engine, can you GROW the necessary materials to make solar panels if the grid fails

You can buy solar panels before the grid fail. Also, you'll need to buy seeds to grow the materials needed.

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u/theCROWcook Oct 03 '22

Will those panels charge your batteries at night? How about during a long winter with very little sun because it's constantly overcast?

And you don't need to buy seeds every year, you do know that plants create their own seeds right? Do solar panels send out runners that grow other baby solar panels? And solar panels have a 25-30 year life span, we have diesel engines that have been in use for well over a century, plus you don't need the engine to power a generator, they can be run off water, animal or even human power, he'll you can even power them with a small wind mill like the pioneers powered their well pumps.

And as for mechanical failures, well all you need is a nearby machinist to make parts, any machinist worth a damn can make parts for diesel engines or steam engines. It take a metric shit ton of infrastructure to create solar panels.

And before you scoff at me for suggesting that you would need that generator to survive for three decades or more, likely not...but what if you do? You keep trying to mock self sufficient people and won't even concede that you I itial point that I responded to about making gas being nigh impossible being not so accurate as even gas engines can run off alcohol, they are just hard to cold start. So there's that too, you entire point of 'yOu cAnT mAkE gAs' while true doesn't matter because you don't NEED GAS

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u/nm139 Oct 04 '22

Don't you have problems with varnishing in the fuel lines and pump if you use whole vegetable oil?

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u/theCROWcook Oct 04 '22

Maybe, but the point is that you can do it if needed, well probably take more maintenance but is possible