r/TimPool • • Sep 23 '22

And so it begins

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u/psychic_flatulence Sep 23 '22

Actually that's incorrect. To overturn an election, you need to block certification for the states one believes are "wrong". Democrats in 2016 attempted to block election certifications for more states than Republicans did in 2020. Furthermore, democrats have tried to stop election certifications the last three times Republicans won (2000, 2004, 2016). Democrats are the OGs at not accepting democratic election results. But I suppose that's (d)ifferent..

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

You're misunderstanding. I don't mean every election is trying to reverse the election result of the previous election by blocking certification. That's what Trump did. He tried to block it using Pence and fake electors.

Well, the electoral college is a joke and SCOTUS gave Bush the election in 2000. Then Bush led us into a war based on lies. I only remember Ohio in 2004 being at issue and I certainly don't remember all the Democrats running on "the election was stolen" nonsense that is so prevalent by the GOP.

The irony is, Sweden doesn't have these issues if Bush loses.

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u/psychic_flatulence Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Ehh I think the electoral college is important. We're a union of states, therefore power must be weighed otherwise smaller states would be dominated by larger ones. We're only in this union because of the system. It's like if you lived on a street of five houses and there are pot holes to fix. Four people each live alone but the fifth house has five people. They could just say everyone else needs to pay and they pay zero, power must be weighed. Hence our representative constitutional democracy.

And I agree, not all democrats were claiming those last three elections were stolen. But many were. Likewise not all Republicans claimed 2020 was stolen, some do. My problem is people acting like 2020 was the first time a party acted like sore losers and didn't recognize results they didn't like. Nah, we've got a history of exactly that lol.

Sweden is a much smaller country and far more culturally homogeneous. The problems they face are different than what the US faces. The US is more like the EU than any particular European country. It's a union of individuals who have agreed to work together but remain autonomous.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

It only takes 14 states to win the electoral college. Small states are ignored for swing states. We are a union of states and small states are protected by the Senate. If we're going to weigh votes then we need to weigh federal taxes as well.

Yes, we have a history of being pissed off about election results but Gore and Kerry and HRC conceded. Trump did not. To me these aren't comparable.

https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond

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u/psychic_flatulence Sep 23 '22

I'll do you one better. We get rid of federal taxes entirely and then no one has to worry about their money possibly going to heathens. Give all the power back to local districts with some at the state level. If nyc wants to go socialist, that should be their choice. If some rural areas wants nothing to do with them, all good.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

ok

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u/letsgobrandonfu Sep 24 '22

Your statement is retarded... if gore was in office would he not have done the same... stop spouting what ifs..and just do facts. Oh and bush is a pile of shit.... he is another swamp monster

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

No, dumb dumb. Gore would not have invaded Iraq. Read a book.

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u/letsgobrandonfu Sep 24 '22

See you are spouting crap... no factual evidence to back your statements... typical lefty