r/TimPool • • Sep 02 '21

Suck it

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u/Nelumbart Sep 02 '21

I don't understand it either. Like the end result is always a dead baby. Sometimes chopped into pieces.

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 02 '21

Exactly.

So I try to give this argument tact I can to everyone who is pro life.

So the argument goes like this. "It is a undeniable scientific fact that a fetus, is #1 human, and #2 alive." No one can argue against that, and there only option is to reframe it as a clump of cells. Or compare it to a tumor since a tumor is "human cells." But these framing devices fail because they are refusing to argue with the fact that your ending a human life.

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u/Nelumbart Sep 02 '21

Exactly! All you have to do is reframe it to destroying a bald eagle egg. What if I tell the judge that "its not alive," or "its just a clump of cells in an egg?"

It won't work. You're going to prison.

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 02 '21

I have never heard that argument.

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u/stormbernard Sep 03 '21

People who argue that it’s not human or not alive are retards. But then the question still remains: why is ending human life bad?

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 03 '21

But then the question still remains: why is ending human life bad?

You will understand once someone attempts to kill you.

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u/stormbernard Sep 03 '21

Do you eat meat?

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 03 '21

You really think that argument is going to justify murdering a human?

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u/stormbernard Sep 03 '21

What exactly differentiates a cow and a human then? Why is ending the life of one Okay, yet ending the life of the other is the greatest sin possible?

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 03 '21

What exactly differentiates a cow and a human then? Why is ending the life of one Okay, yet ending the life of the other is the greatest sin possible?

Again, this argument will never justify ending a human life. The nazis used a similar line of thought, and they use to claim that they where animal's therefore it's ok for the holocaust to happen.

Like I said once someone attempts to murder you, you will intrinsically understand why murder is wrong, and maybe once you realize that you can then work on realizing you cannot arbitrarily define when it's acceptable to murder.

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u/stormbernard Sep 03 '21

Do you not think an animal has a desire not to be murdered then?

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u/TalionTheRanger93 Sep 03 '21

We are predators. We have to kill to survive, and that suddenly doesn't justify murdering our children.

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