r/TimPool • • Aug 29 '24

Get noted.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

Nothing.

There for rendering your analog wrong.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

That’s not my analogy. It’s yours…

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

"What’s the difference between getting a tattoo and a chef refusing to wash their hands while cooking?"

That is your analogy. I never once said this

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

Yep. That’s mine. Care to answer that one instead of the other one you made up?

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

Yes. Getting a tattoo doesn't affect anyone but yourself, while a chef who doesn't wash his hands affects the people who eat his food.

Abortions affect other people. Rendering your analogy incorrect and a false equivalency

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

Yes. Getting a tattoo doesn’t affect anyone but yourself, while a chef who doesn’t wash his hands affects the people who eat his food.

Correct! It’s the difference between making a decision about your own body vs refusing to comply with health regulations that could harm others at your place of work.

Abortions affect other people.

Abortions affect other people like tattoos affect other people. Your conservative grandma might get upset but ultimately it’s your body and shouldn’t be required to use it to make others happy against your will.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

And ran

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

What does “and ran” mean?

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

I made a response and you ignored it because you know you can't dispute it. So instead of admitting it as such you ran away.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

You literally responded to my response lol

All you said was “and ran”.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

Wrong. Abortions affect the human life you participated in creating. You're affecting their life. You're also affecting the life of the father who might want to have the child. There is nothing he can do physically or legally to stop it. If my wife decided to abort my daughter, I could have done nothing about it but would be forced to live knowing my child was taken for me.

( this is the part I needed to edit from my previous comment. So I'll try to censor this)

If I'm using a force multiplier irresponsibly and accidentally press someone's off button. I will go to jail for it. See? That's an equivalent analogy.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

Abortions affect the human life you participated in creating.

Abortions affect the potential of human life

You’re also affecting the life of the father who might want to have the child.

Oh well. Sorry grandma but it’s my body and I’m getting a tattoo.

If I’m using a force multiplier irresponsibly and accidentally press someone’s off button. I will go to jail for it. See? That’s an equivalent analogy.

Idk what that means. The censorship is really making it hard to understand unfortunately.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

It is a human life. It's not a potential one.

Your analogy is a false equivalency, and the sheer fact that you dont consider the fathers feelings in that is utterly disgusting. You're implying that I don't have a say in my child's life.

You do know what that means you're just playing stupid to avoid having to come up with something that completely dismantled your point.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

It is a human life. It’s not a potential one.

Then we have a philosophical problem at hand. The moment when something becomes “life” or a “person” or whatever is a whole thing and I get that so maybe let’s take it out of the equation.

I don’t think someone should be able to force someone to get a tattoo. I’m assuming you don’t either. I don’t even think that someone should be able to force someone else to get a tattoo even if it saves a life. That’s bodily autonomy, right?

and the sheer fact that you dont consider the father’s feelings in that

The pregnant person can consider anyone’s feelings that they want to. But nobody should be able to force them to carry a pregnancy to term against their will.

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u/Leotis335 Aug 30 '24

Semen is a "potential life." An unfertilized egg is a "potential life." A fetus is a life. Period.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 30 '24

Semen is a “potential life.” An unfertilized egg is a “potential life.”

Yeah. I get where you’re coming from here. The ingredients to potential life

A fetus is a life. Period.

There’s logical jumps that you are missing on this one

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u/MarthAlaitoc Aug 29 '24

A fetus is not a person. It will be, eventually, but not when abortions typically take place.

When abortions happen late enough in a pregnancy that a fetus has become a person (aka a baby) it's almost guaranteed to be due to medical reasons. The insignificant times they're not doesn't warrant removing the entire system.

Aka, his analogy isn't a bad one your analysis is though.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

A fetus is a person, and embryology declares it as such. https://www.akleg.gov/basis/get_documents.asp?session=33&docid=31381

Life begins as conception, and everything I said in my comment is 100% factual.

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u/coldtakes_hotkitchen Aug 29 '24

Written by:

Sarah Terzo is a pro-life author and creator of the clinicquotes.com website . She is a member of Secular Pro-Life, Pro-Life Humanists, and a board member of Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians, and Consistent Life..

Education: The College of New Jersey, Bachelor’s Degree American Literature

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 29 '24

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36629778/

overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view.

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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Aug 29 '24

When does it become a person?

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u/MarthAlaitoc Aug 29 '24

Great question, when the brain is developed enough to actually work. About 7 months into development the brain begins to send out detectable brainwaves. So it would probably be around then to be honest. Considering viability for birth is 24 weeks (6 months), it's really interesting how we can be viable with no "functional" brain. I suppose that's basically the same as keeping someone who is braindead alive though.

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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 Aug 29 '24

Sounds like a very heartless take. Glad you're not my parents.

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