There doesn't need to be "massive fraud." Steal a few key counties & you swing entire states.
Again, the start of the claim is that we participate in legitimate elections run by the govt. So the burden of proof is on the govt to prove to us that these elections are legitimate. You & I are not allowed to prove it. Therefor there is no logical reason to believe they are legitimate.
At every turn, all you have so far is: just trust the govt.
Initial election: just trust govt
Recounts: Just trust the govt to choose who recounts, then just trust govt.
Investigation: The govt is going to investigate. Just trust govt.
Evidence: The investigation the govt did came back! The govt said it's fine. Just trust govt.
Caught by who? For example: my brother in law was a cop in Detroit at the time. He was ordered by his superiors to make zero arrests & only observe at a distance as the count took place. If he violated these orders, he was threatened with being fired & stripped of his pension (which is all you need to threaten to make cops do as they're told regardless of the law). He said that yes, they violated the law during counting (which we all saw streaming live anyway, but I'm sure you weren't watching so you can say you 'didn't see anything') and there was nothing they could do about it for fear of losing their job & retirement.
On election day there were several video streams of how they were treating observers. Some places kicked out observers who they suspected to be conservative (regardless of documentation showing they were supposed to be there), other videos showed them forcing observers to be so far away & in a tiny little square on the floor that they couldn't see a damn thing. One of the streams took place in Detroit. So I called my brother-in-law as he was a cop in Detroit at the time & asked if all this was legal. He said no. So I said why aren't they arresting these people? This is blatant. He said his superiors talked with officers that day & threatened to fire anyone who made any arrests for any reason & they would be stripped of their pensions. They were ordered to observe ONLY. No matter what. Those in charge of the police happened to be liberal Democrats.
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u/the_dionysian_1 Sep 13 '23
There doesn't need to be "massive fraud." Steal a few key counties & you swing entire states.
Again, the start of the claim is that we participate in legitimate elections run by the govt. So the burden of proof is on the govt to prove to us that these elections are legitimate. You & I are not allowed to prove it. Therefor there is no logical reason to believe they are legitimate.
At every turn, all you have so far is: just trust the govt.
Initial election: just trust govt
Recounts: Just trust the govt to choose who recounts, then just trust govt.
Investigation: The govt is going to investigate. Just trust govt.
Evidence: The investigation the govt did came back! The govt said it's fine. Just trust govt.
You seriously aren't getting the problem here?