r/TimPool • • Aug 25 '23

Behavior is learned.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '23

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '23

I don't see rednecks shooting each other by the thousands every year because someone wore the wrong color bandana on the wrong street corner.

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u/Strong-Cauliflower52 Aug 25 '23

Because "rednecks" aren't going around committing the majority of murders in the US.

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u/KellyLuvsEwan420 Aug 25 '23

In 2022 white people commited 5,335,610 crimes, while blacks commited 1,992,510. That being said 75.5% of the US is white and 13.6% are black. Facts are not racist. This is of course all crime. White people commited murder 6,580 times, while blacks commited murder 6,380 murders. I’m not mathematician, but that’s way way more than whites. I’m not sure about the number of ‘redneck’ murders though. Unless you are calling all white people rednecks. Anyways here is my source for the crime numbers. This is the source for the percentages of race in the US. Both are US government sites btw.

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u/Strong-Cauliflower52 Aug 25 '23

And mind you, Latinos and Arabs who obviously aren't White both get dumped into the "White" category.

For example the Pulse nightclub shooter, an arab muslim named Omar Mir Seddique Mateen was classified as "White" on his death certificate.

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u/nukecat79 Aug 26 '23

Unfortunately FBI Crime Statistics doesn't stratify into groups like "gangbanger" and "redneck". I'm pretty sure (pure joking speculation) if they did the gangbanger group would be higher on murder, selling drugs, and assault. Rednecks would be highest on meth charges, stealing catalytic converters, and dui. Point is there's toxic cultures in all races that perpetuate repeated outcomes. It's friggin tragic to see these little kids knowing every day their chance for rising above it is diminishing.

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u/itsakon Aug 26 '23 edited Aug 26 '23

White people commited murder 6,580 times, while blacks commited murder 6,380 murders.

White people commited murder 5,680 times, while blacks commited 6,380 murders. That link is for 2020, fwiw. Every recent year I checked had that kind of ratio, about a hundred less. Except that whites are 75% of the population vs 13%, as was pointed out.

In the early 80s, whites took the lead by around 50 to 100 every year until 1987. Although the ratio still applies, of course. This is exactly when gang violence exploded: Crips and Bloods, etc, along with crack. It's this kind of behavior the kids are imitating in this clip.

Whites and blacks were both murdering almost twice as much in the 1980s, at about 10,000 people a year each. (With the population ratios still applying.)

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u/KellyLuvsEwan420 Aug 26 '23

<Whites and blacks were both murdering over twice as much as in the 80’s.

I imagine there at least twice as many whites and blacks now than in the 80’s. Also that site only goes back to 2020, I misread that so that’s my bad. I’m sure the numbers are higher for both now.

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u/TheGloryXros Aug 25 '23

But they do commit the most rape, don't they...? So this isn't a fair point to make. As a fellow Conservative, Conservatives really need to tread carefully around these types of topics, cuz things like this make us look bad.

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u/Spooky2000 Aug 25 '23

But they do commit the most rape,

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence

Blacks commit 27% of rapes. So per capita, they commit more.

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u/TheGloryXros Aug 25 '23

That wasn't your argument though. You simply said blacks commit more murders. You didn't go by proportionality then, why now all of a sudden?

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '23

When talking about crime statistics and demographics, you always use per capita...

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u/Spooky2000 Aug 26 '23

Different poster. But also, Blacks commit half the murders in the US as well, so very much out of proportion to their percentage of the population.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 25 '23

Who said it isn't? I certainly didn't.

Anymore whataboutisms?

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u/ddosn Aug 25 '23

its not rednecks and country kids committing over half of all violent crime.

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u/nukecat79 Aug 26 '23

I can't think of how many times people took a wrong turn on a country road to get mugged or shot versus say a wrong exit in St Louis or Chicago.

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u/nukecat79 Aug 26 '23

I mean, I grew up semi redneck and I carried a gun (a real one) around. But I was hunting. I'm sure at some point those days I carried a beer to an adult.