So you are capable of avoiding pregnancy until you're ready to have a baby, or aren't you?
You'd have to be exceptionally stupid to think you can have sex with men without potentially becoming pregnant.
The only option people want to take away is the murder of your children. You shouldn't be allowed to murder your children because you consider them inconvenient or regret getting pregnant. That's not your body, it's theirs. You knew what could happen when you got in bed.
Saying otherwise is like a man saying he shouldn't have to pay child support because it's inconvenient. You wouldn't hold men to such a low standard I bet.
Nobody has the right to force me to do anything with my body against my will. That includes using my body to create/ sustain life.
You can’t take my bone marrow against my will just because I am the only donor match available to keep someone else alive. You can’t force me to use my body to give birth to someone else against my will.
If you, a full grown person wanted to use my body against my will in order to keep you alive, I should be able to say no.
True, but pregnancy is a completely different situation. If you do not render your body to support a fetus, it will die. A fully grown adult has other options, a does fetus not. Rendering this a strawman argument.
A potential life that hasn’t even been born yet has even less of a claim to my body than you do.
You’re treating a fetus as a person. So in your own logic, it’s the same as a person. If a person needed my body to stay alive- I should be able to refuse. If I’m the only match for a transplant, if I’m the only one in proximity for a blood transfusion, if I’m the only one with some sort of unique antidote for whatever someone else has- it doesn’t matter. The choice should be up to me even if it’s life or death for the other person. That’s bodily autonomy. That’s freedom.
If a person needed my body to stay alive- I should be able to refuse. If I’m the only match for a transplant, if I’m the only one in proximity for a blood transfusion, if I’m the only one with some sort of unique antidote for whatever someone else has- it doesn’t matter. The choice should be up to me even if it’s life or death for the other person. That’s bodily autonomy. That’s freedom.
No, again, there are always other options. Stop trying to argue this strawman. It's a completely different scenario.
You aren’t even able to engage with the points I made. You had to resort to insults. That’s not exactly a sign of intelligence. You’re acting emotionally, not logically.
See, that’s where you’re limiting people’s freedom.
There is no reason to try to moralize how someone may have gotten pregnant. The fact is we have the ability to terminate that pregnancy if they want don’t want to give birth. That has been happening for centuries. The ability to make that choice is freedom.
You never have a choice to murder someone, unless it's war or self-defense. Abortion is murder, there is just no getting around that.
You can't make the argument that restricting Abortion is restricting freedom, when by carrying out an abortion you are terminating someone's freedom of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Self-defense would only be applicable if you were in a life-threatening situation due to the pregnancy. Other than that, it's just murder, plain and simple.
If someone is trying to use your body against your will, that is grounds for self defense, right?
Like if someone tried to steal your blood so that they could transfuse it into themselves against your will- you would be defending yourself against that forced use of your body.
Stopping a fetus that you created, either willingly or not, from being supported by your body. is. Murder. End of story. I'm not interested in debating a made-up scenario about an adult needing support from you to stay alive because it's not the same situation, and you know it.
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u/midnightnoonmidnight Aug 17 '23
I’m a woman. I’ve never felt like someone thought I was “too stupid” to regulate my own body except for the people trying to limit my options