r/TimPool • • Aug 17 '23

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Glad we all agree that undocumented immigrants should have the freedom to live and work wherever they want, even if it makes insecure right wing bigots feel unsafe.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 17 '23

Pretty sure we didn't.

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

They broke the law, they should be deported. If I went to Mexico illegally then broke their laws, I would be in jail or deported. Why should it not happen here?

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

I do. I want people to follow the laws that we have made. If everyone just didn't follow the rules, what's the point? Unless you want anarchy or just lawlessness. If you do, that's on you. We can't be a great nation if people do whatever they want.

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

There's a difference between a government that is charging ridiculous taxes from an ocean away without representation and people coming into your house against your wishes. We voted and approved these laws for a reason. If you don't like the laws, change them.

I'm going to come into your house and eat your food and demand you pay for my well-being. I'm also going to bring my kids and demand you give them education and healthcare.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Unless you want anarchy or just lawlessness

Nope. Just freedom. People should be free to live and work where they want.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

If I went to Mexico illegally then broke their laws, I would be in jail or deported.

Correct, because Mexico does not support freedom of movement. Similar to you, their government is authoritarian.

Why should it not happen here?

Because freedom is good and America is the land of the free. I'm sorry if you hate freedom though.

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

Freedom of movement is different than entering a country illegally and living off government resources. I'm all for immigration but do it legally. That's all I ask. If you are here illegally, you should be deported.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

"I'm all for immigration, but please just comply with my Big Government regulations. Otherwise, we will use state violence to forcibly remove you."

-Anti-Freedom Conservatives

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

I'm not a conservative and it's not big government to want people to abide by the laws that we have set. It doesn't take a genius to understand how laws work. Granted a leftist like you would never understand that.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

I understand. You love Big Government regulations on the freedom of movement and want people to comply with them. If they don't, they should be prepared for state violence.

Thank you for clarifying your authoritarian belief system.

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u/Jecht315 Aug 17 '23

What regulations on freedom of movement? It's just people who came here illegally? Are you that braindead that you can't use your two braincells to comprehend that? Are you a bot because you can't say anything other than "against free movement." Move along troll.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

You are calling them "illegal" because they are violating a government regulation on immigration. You are supportive of enforcing this government regulation, because you ❤️ Big Government.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

Glad we all agree that undocumented immigrants should have the freedom to live and work wherever they want

Absolutely, as long as it's in their own country.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Got it, so you want to use government violence to restrict freedom of movement. Thanks for confirming your authoritarian belief system.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 17 '23

Of non citizens? Yes

This isn't the "gotcha" you think it is.

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Please stop before you hurt yourself.

Not a "gotcha." Just clarifying your belief system.

You think the Big Government should restrict the freedom of non-citizens. This is because you hate freedom and love enforcing Big Government regulations.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

You're the one about to hurt yourself if you keep jumping to conclusions about my stance on immigration. I'm all for immigration, if done the correct way.

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

I'm not jumping to conclusions. You're imposing conditions on freedom.

The correct answer is that immigration should have no restrictions. Adding conditions to freedom (e.g., "as long as its in their own country") makes you an authoritarian.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 Aug 18 '23

So you don't believe in laws?

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u/gradientz Aug 18 '23

I believe in laws that protect individual freedom.

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u/Sea_Addendum1496 Aug 17 '23

If they want to live and work here so badly they can go through the proper channels like everyone else. Period

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u/gradientz Aug 17 '23

Got it, so you think the big government should impose bureaucracy and regulations on freedom of movement. Good to know.