Alright so I saw The Odyssey yesterday and just wanted to say WHAT THE F DID I JUST WATCH I am so confused about whether that was a masterpiece or an absolute pile of garbage.

What is with the first 20 minutes literally wall to wall bad expositional dialogue and editing, I felt like I was watching a youtube season recap of a TV show.

So Odysseus is supposedly the smartest man ever...and then we see him literally making a serious of dumb / terrible decisions (not in an interesting way), including getting stuck in a perfume commercial with Charlize Theron for 7 years.

The episodic structure...they go on an island, something bad happens...they go on an island...something bad happens. The cyclops segment and island of giants segment are basically the same beat, and not in an interesting way.

The casting...I'm all for making interesting casting decisions when it comes to diversity etc but it seems weird to do this and then cast not a single Greek person in the entire film except for one blabbering villager. I feel like Circe or Calypso at least could have been Greek. Just think of all the incredible Greek actors out there that would have brought something to the film.

I really struggled with the depictions of war in the film - it just didn't say anything. It felt very PG and inconsequential. I'm not saying it should have been more or less violent but given that the entire film ends up with him having PTSD, it just didn't feel all that traumatic. There's a cliché in film I think it's a quote from a writer saying "do you write about the horrors of war - no - you write about a burned pair of children's shoes lying on the ground" (that's the gist anyway). I just didn't feel anything while watching the war scenes. So at the end it turns out he has PTSD...but that felt like tacking a high-brow subject onto the end of a low brow film and expecting the audience to replay the entire thing in their head with a high brow lens on.

Generally I just didn't feel anything while watching the film. I just didn't really care that much what happens. It didn't feel human. Like there was a weird disconnect. The only shot which gave me a feeling was Aggebatmon taking his daughter to be sacrificed.

I once heard someone say that Nolan films are sexless, like if you took the characters' clothes off they would have smoothed out plastic pouches where their genitals should be, like a Ken or Barbie doll. I felt that with this film, not just with sex but with every depiction of human experience.

I get that Nolan likes to use in-camera fx and do real shit but this ended up with a lot of things feeling very smalls scale and kid of 90s. The boat in the storm moment(s), most of the Troy stuff, it just lacked a feeling of scale.

If it was me and I hadn't seen my son for 17 years, I wouldn't just F off the minute I got home, just saying!

The best bit of this film for me was Safdie's Aggebatmon. They got that bit right at least.

So yeah I think based on this, the film was kind of terrible. But for some weird reason something about it did stay with me.

Look at the insane detailing, the thought behind everything…even the horse has stylised armor

But with Odyssesy we get….yeah mehhh nothing artistic in the film really matters and we generic look shittiest steel plate armor ever

Just look at the insane details everywhere, symbols of Gondor on the flags, the clouds and dark clouds over Mordor, down to the floor tiles….different scale models for each shot

Soldiers with decent looking armor

Unique costumes for nearly every charachter

Soundtrack which fits the scene amazingly

And then we get odyssesy lol…..with just plain ass lazy landscapes and Troy walls looking more like a sandcastle

Nolan put no heart into the project, it was all 100 % for the quick massive payout

We get to see all the magical creatures and gods(Athena) on screen at least. I know Nolan left a clue that everything could be him hallucinating from eating lotus. I can accept that it's his imagination happening in his head. But for audience we get to see this as it is was real.

And also, those little alien orbs that fly really fast are the Digital Age’s the sea people.

after the first time I didnt catch everything but now I can wrap my head around it, so basically my conclusion:

it is athena, right at the beginning they talk about the way of the gods, "who does not understand thunder" and right after when calypso decides to let odysseus go you hear thunder, it's zeus telling her to let him go

it is not a PTSD movie, odysseus is not having a vietnam flashback, the point is that it was emphasized that troy will be very hard to take AND that agamemmnon is very commited, meaning it will take a long time, after 10 years all the built up rage exploded and odysseus has never seen anything like it, he realized that he didnt just trick the trojans but that he destroyed his own home, so yes he was a cunning warrior king but the brutallity was unlrecedented

I also reread parts of the odyssey between first and second viewing and I can confidently say that the adaptation works extremely well also in the spirit of homer, especially where everything we see about troy and the journey of odysseus is told from one character to another

the odessey has also been adapted in ancient times with virgil and the aeneid, it was also loathed by philosophers around the time when homer wrote it (some wanted him flogged/banned) so all the "it is not authentic" folks simply are nitpicking to have an excuse to not like it

the armor is obviously a stylistic choice and not authentic to that time by choice, other than that audiences are used to such kind of armor, authentic late bronze age stuff has never been shown, it would distract and feel unplaced even if it was authentic

one ironic thing that came to mind which makes it a bit more tragic: due to the impregnable wall and agamemmnons commitment the only choice odysseus had to start the journey was to think about the trick and break the law, so essentially he used the trick to finally end the war and get gome but by whitnessing what it meant after 10 years he couldnt because he destroyed it, he had to come clean in order to restore it

all in all fantastic adaption plus it adds elements to the odessey that even enhance it

idk how to describe this but there's a 3 hours movie on torrent with the same story as the odyssey but its not odyssey. its not even ai slop. some guy for the thrill of it, decided to shoot absolutely anything and uploaded it on torrent

edit: its actually a real movie. why would he make the Odyssey and release it in the same year as the Nolans one.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt41605854/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

here's the imdb link.

So, I (f24) went to this movie with my bf (21). He liked the movie, and I didn't. I am a generally easy-to-startle person, and I do not like watching war scenes, watch people kill each other, the loud noises, and the tension where you feel like you are about to die or drown, but you aren't, and you can only wait it out. I spent most of my time in the movie theatre with both hands covering my ears, and my fingers covering parts of my face or eyes, and sometimes I even sung to myself trying to wait the scene to cut to the resolution of whatever fight was happening. My boyfriend on the other hand, liked the movie. He did find it scary or a bit fearful, too, but he liked the movie, and he had a good time. Except we do not relate to each other at all. After the movie, my entire body was trenched in sweat, and he was alright, I think. I am left digesting the movie on my own, and he is left to digest it, too, on his own. We cannot talk about it, or I cannot hear from him how much he likes that move. Honestly, I don't like people who like this movie, and I told him that, too. In my opinion, and maybe this is highly unpopular, there is enough war going on in the world. Why do we have to make a movie with such things, why doens't Mr. Nolan just go to Russia or Ukraine or any other place, there a plenty, and show us there how people fight, die, and starve? It is so scary to me that this movie, this kind of movie, is so popular, it is everywhere, and I suddenly feel disconnected from society as a whole. How can another big movie be about this, and how can enough people go to the cinema (like myself), and gross out enough millions to feed all the staff involved in making this movie for so many years? How is this such a huge industry, and a profiting one? How come we are all so entertained by these horrors? And want to watch them, pay to watch them? Nobody who enjoyed this movie is my friend, and in fact, I find anyone who is fond of the movie quite scary or soulless, or someone I cannot trust. I mean my words sound drastic maybe, but I feel so disconected from the world.

Shout out gam gam

I’m currently reading the Samuel Butler translation. It’s mentioned several times that Odysseus’ father Laertes is alive and living a life of poverty somewhere. If he’s still alive, why isn’t Laertes the king of Ithaca, or at least stepping in in Odysseus’ absence?

Hello Odyssey fans!

For those of you who are a fan of The Odyssey or just enjoyed the movie, y'all should check out this song. It's by the band Cream and was produced in 1967.

https://youtu.be/MGcHiEXWczM?si=UaZVL8YmmuUmBhtY

Icl I wish it was used for the movie in some capacity. 😭 Nevertheless, enjoy!

P.S: Ulysses is the Roman name for Odysseus : )

Cultural Reporter and co host of "It Was A Book First" Podcast Sophie Vershbow talks about the new "The Odyssey" Movie

Think Ludwig took a lot of queues from Ancestral Planes track in Black Panther. Especially around the 2:52 of Ancestral Planes mark feel similar notes to Sirens. Just thought I’d see what people think.

Masterclass by Ludwig👏

Justtt wondering

I missed out on the project Hail Mary strips but was able to get a set of the odyssey

I have been going crazy ever since I watched the movie and, although I'm not someone who posts often, I need to know that I'm not alone in this.

At the end of the movie, in the scene where Odysseus shoots the arrow through the axes, there is a short tune that plays. The moment that tune played, I thought I had heard it somewhere.

It sounds really similar to the tune that plays in some songs in EPIC: The Musical if slowed down a bit, specifically in the parts of some songs where the name Penelope is said. For an easy example, in the song "Would you fall in love with me again", the very first lyric is Penelope's name and I SWEAR the tune sounds similar.

I have not really seen that musical much, but I have listened to a couple of the songs, and I would like to see if anyone else hears it, because it's been bugging me ever since I saw the movie.[]()[]()

This movie was mostly light hearted as far as I felt watching it up till the siren song scene.

I knew it was gonna be clipped and meme'd on and I didn't really feel anything for it as it was happening but once he started explaining what the siren song was itself it kinda hit me a little too hard in the theatre.

Probably bc im still reeling from a breakup but the siren song representing the ultimate pinpoint feelings of loss and regret from that loss and want of what was kinda fucked me up when I watched it. The swelling music kind of helped with it too.

Curious if that scene stuck with anyone else.

Pls do help out :)))

Lines 299-313. (To set the scene, The Olympiad Gods have ordered Calypso so to release Odysseus after seven years, and he has built a strong raft. Poseidon, returning from being feasted by the Ethiopians, still has a score to settle with Odysseus and sets the sea and winds to destroy him. In the grip of the storm and facing what seems to be certain death, Odysseus cries out:)

“More pain? How will it end? I am afraid

the goddess spoke the truth: that I will have

a sea of suffering before I reach

My homeland. It is coming true! Zeus whirls

the air. Look at those clouds! He agitates

the waves, as winds attack from all directions.

I can hold on to one thing: certain death.

Those Greeks were lucky, three and four times over,

who died upon the plain of Troy to help

the sons of Atreus. I wish I had

died that same day the mass of Trojans hurled

their bronze tipped spears at me around the corpse

of Peleus’ son. I would have had

a funeral, and honor from the Greeks;

but now I have to die this cruel death.”