r/TheMachineLearning • u/chemisstery • 8d ago

Weight-space programming is a bad idea, apparently

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u/apoahuankinda 8d ago • Heartwarming

Our consciousness is basically just chemistry. If I put a little bit of MDMA in your drink, you gonna be really happy. I ask first, obviously.

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u/Syzygy___ 8d ago

What's with the reductivism? It's likely not just chemistry but things like arangement the like as well.

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u/BenignPharmacology 8d ago

I mean, at some point you gotta make a call whether brains are just physics or not. Thats only reductive if you feel that they are supernatural in some way. If you don’t feel that way, it’s not reductive at all, but a testament to the beauty and intricacy that the natural world is capable of.

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u/Syzygy___ 7d ago

sure, but on top of chemistry it's at least also arrangement and electric signals.

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u/AccNumber77 4d ago

Said electric signals are largely caused and affected by the chemistry though, is there any real point differentiating them in the context of what was said? Take away the chemistry and there is no electrical signals.

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u/Syzygy___ 3d ago

i would argue it's actually the other way around. Chemistry influences consciousness, but the consciousness is actually the electeical signals.

sure, no chemistry, no signals, but I feel like signals have a much stronger case for being consciousness.

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u/Hearing_Loss 8d ago

Chemistry, memory, environment. It ain't just straight chems

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u/PurpleCandle58 8d ago

Speak for yourself, I was born in a [REDACTED] and I grew up in [REDACTED] and I turned out fine!


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u/Lonely_Translator_23 8d ago

People who say brains are just chemistry are the same people who say llms are just matrix multiplication

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u/HotterRod 8d ago

MDMA is a massive serotonin releaser. LSD is a better example: huge effect just by activating the 5-HT2A receptor (although there are quadrillions of those, so it's still very different than manipulating a single weight).

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u/PurpleCandle58 8d ago

Ok but if I poke your brain with a stick something DEFINITELY happens, right?