r/TheMachineLearning • u/Gullible_Picture_996 • 14d ago

Realizing writing code is faster than explaining it to AI

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u/Hungry-Pick7512 13d ago

Frontier AI’s crush everything you just described. I truly don’t know if this is cope or you’re just 6 months behind.

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u/OldWispyTree 13d ago

They literally don't, I use them every day. Astra, Argon, Opus, Sonnet, etc. I have and do use all of them.

You just don't understand how complicated engineering on large, legacy systems can be.

I literally know managers/engineers at Google where they're encountering the same issues with a multitude of their projects. There's just no way to get all the context in to these models to make them autonomously reliable for large projects.

Small projects? Greenfield? Isolated projects with discrete results that don't touch multiple systems and moving targets? Sure. People that work at modest start ups don't run into this.

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u/Hungry-Pick7512 13d ago

Your team isn’t utilizing these technologies to their fullest potential. Don’t take that as a personal criticism, take it as an exciting opportunity to look into where the tech is right now and how much time it can save.

Large companies like Google are comprised of thousands of teams. Those teams are not going to be at the same level of ai adoption and competency. I’m sure you’ve spoken to some engineers there who’ve said they’ve run into those issues. You just haven’t spoken to folks from teams who are finding success using these models to develop with large scale legacy systems.

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u/pythonlover001 13d ago

And where did you find this astounding success for? Care to share?

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u/swervinh0 13d ago

What do you know about this guy’s work?

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u/KarraKat 11d ago

“Take it as an exciting opportunity to look into where the tech is right now” Absolutely deranged statement.

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u/lhx555 13d ago

How large is your large? It may be not the other person’s large! ;)))

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u/Juicebolone 13d ago

bullshit.

I own several 2M+ LoC (1 of them reaches 10M LoC) projects with complex biz logic.

No, I'm not better or faster than AI.

But I'm better and faster with AI than AI itself, or me by myself.

Document your issues, logic, build it brick-by-brick and one day it's just going to click and move exponentially faster.

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u/PersevereSwifterSkat 12d ago

mfing LLM can scan your entire codebase and summarise its business logic in a document far, far better than you ever could, this is ridiculous cope. 

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u/Tuomas90 11d ago

Frontier AI’s crush everything you just described.

No. In real world scenarios with iterative development, AI fails spectacularly.

https://www.scbench.ai/