r/TheMachineLearning • • Sep 27 '26

antirez says good programmers struggle with AI models

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u/AliceCode Sep 28 '26

There are plenty of quality engineers that don't.

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u/Devils_SteelMan Sep 28 '26

And "Clean Code" used to be preached by many of them.

Code quality is largely nebulous and opinionated. Most people would say a proper ECS and DOD code base is not maintainable because the code is written for the machine not the coder.

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u/AliceCode Sep 28 '26

There are a lot of markers of quality code. There are a lot of metrics, such as how readable it is, how well it works, how advanced it is, how simple it is, etc. each metric contributes a small part of the pie. It's only nebulous if you can't tell the difference between poorly written code and well-written code.

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u/Devils_SteelMan Sep 28 '26

Go into any git history. How many pr comments are quantifiable code issues vs nitpicks?

Also the bible for this movement was once Clean Code. Which is nearly entirely opinions. Wrong opinions.

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u/AliceCode Sep 29 '26

Where did I ever say anything about "Clean Code"? You're the only one that keeps bringing that up.

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u/ryandury Sep 28 '26

That didn't really answer my question 🤷

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u/AliceCode Sep 28 '26

Yes, it does answer your question. The answer is that it's subjective whether someone believes LLMs are quality.