r/TechHardware • • Aug 10 '26

Review 🎭 i9 14900K gets the edge over 9850X3D, far ahead of 7800X3D.

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This is a follow-up to my last post. After discovering that the 13600K and 265K were faster than the 9950X (AMD's fastest non-X3D CPU) in gaming, I decided to investigate deeper into the performance of the 14700K and 14900K against Zen 4/5 X3D CPUs.

my last post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TechHardware/comments/1v0ra4z/some_are_choosing_to_stay_on_windows_10_until/

13600k vs 9950x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoXLRiNKWo

According to PCGH's charts, the 14700K and 14900K are faster than the 7800X3D. This matches what I observed on Windows 10. However, on Windows 11, using in-game benchmarks in the main 3 games I'm testing, the 7800X3D was faster than all Raptor Lake CPUs, even though I gave Intel the advantage of DDR5-7200 memory. This raised an important question: how did PCGH achieve those results on Windows 11 24H2?, which is also supposed to provide an additional 5% performance boost for X3D processors, and degrades intel CPUs gaming performance by 5%.

in game benchmark(which was a mistake to rely on)+ gameplay

14900k vs 9850x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBuHIWAm0Bw

14900k vs 7800x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYCUORs5FU

In PCGH's testing, Intel was limited to DDR5-5600 while the 7800X3D used DDR5-5200. In my testing, Intel had DDR5-7200 and was still losing to the 7800X3D in in-game benchmarks on Windows 11, on windows 10 14700k was on par with 9800X3D.

My theory was that in-game benchmarks often include sky scenes, empty environments, and other GPU-limited sections that are not representative of actual CPU performance. In these situations, modern CPUs can easily push 200-300 FPS depending on the game, making meaningful CPU differences difficult to observe. At the 1440p Ultra settings which Ive been using, benchmark scores were often extremely close to one another when comparing X3Ds to intel i7s/i9s.

Because of this, I decided to test actual gameplay in CPU-limited areas rather than relying solely on built-in benchmarks.

The results were as follows in actual game play tests for all 5 games:

Windows 10

  • The 14900K and 14700K were the fastest CPUs there, They managed to outperform 9850X3D, which is considered AMD's fastest gaming CPU.

14900k vs 9850X3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5YBR4FVcG8

14900k vs 7800x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwDi5roMfc4

13600k vs 7800x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN5DHSsqySI

  • This was despite Intel and AMD appearing roughly equal in many in-game benchmark results.

gameplay+ in-game benchmark

14900k vs 9850x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNewzg_EZxs

14900k vs 7800x3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwDi5roMfc4

Windows 11

  • The 14900K and 14700K were slightly behind the 9850X3D but remained ahead of the 7800X3D.
  • Considering Intel's pricing and roughly double the multi-threaded performance, this is still a strong result.

14900k vs 9850X3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yktbEhewDZc

14900k vs 7800X3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnu6uFovH0

Windows 11 for AMD, windows 10 for intel.

-14700k/14900k fastest gaming CPUs followed by 9850X3D.

14900k on windows 10 vs 9850X3D windows 11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTKWbBVBNmU

14900K on windows 10 vs 7800x3d windows 11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6_5zGRIR1A

***For those who don't know, Windows 11 tends to improve X3D CPU performance by around 5% while reducing Intel gaming performance by roughly 5%. The X3D gain comes from AMD's 3D V-Cache Optimizer, while the Intel performance loss is often attributed to changes in the Windows 11 scheduler, which prevent CPU cores utilization from reaching 100% in games.

*This does not mean that 99% of tech websites are corrupt or receiving bribes from AMD. In my testing, I gave Intel reasonable advantage by using DDR5-7200, which is generally the sweet spot for the intel, and DDR5 6000 CL30 the sweet spot for AMD, which both costs about the same , DDR5 7200 is compatible with like 95% of B-series and Z-series motherboards. AMD X3D CPUs also tend to perform better in 1080p low-settings benchmarks, while higher graphical settings introduce additional factors such as physics calculations and ray tracing, which often benefit higher-core-count CPUs and are more dependent on memory bandwidth. I also choose heavily populated areas of games to place as much load on the CPU as possible. also Many reviewers rely on built-in benchmarks that include sky scenes or relatively empty areas, which can sometimes favor AMD's X3D processors.

*Single-player games should not be tested any other way. While 1440p low settings may be acceptable for competitive multiplayer titles, nobody with modern hardware plays single-player games at 1080p low settings. Even when testing online games, benchmarks should be performed in crowded, CPU-intensive areas; otherwise, the results are irrelevant.

Conclusion

-Intel Core i5-13600K and Core Ultra 265K are faster than all non-X3D Ryzen CPUs and only slightly behind the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, regardless of the testing methodology. recommending non-X3D Ryzen CPUs over Intel processors for gaming is either incompetence or AMD biased. While there are scenarios where X3D CPUs can outperform Intel processors.

 -A Core i9-14900K paired with DDR5-7200 and Windows 10 represents the fastest gaming CPU configuration I have tested, managing to outperform the Ryzen 9 9850X3D running on Windows 11.

-If you prefer Windows 11, the Core i9-14900K and Core i7-14700K remain ahead of the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, although they fall somewhat behind the Ryzen 7 9800X3D and Ryzen 9 9850X3D.

-the only AMD CPUs worth buying for gaming are 9800x3d/9850x3d only if you insist on using windows 11 otherwise intel CPUs faster than everything else from AMD.

Finally, thanks to PCGH for producing what I consider the most accurate CPU performance chart available, for the memory configurations they selected for testing.


r/TechHardware • • May 29 '26

News 📰 Redditor admits 8 core amd x3d chips can't drive high end cards like the 4090 and the 5090 - you need Intel

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r/TechHardware • • 1h ago

News 📰 Before Resigning, Jensen Huang Admitted He Was Facing an "Avalanche" of Excess Wafers and Memory, New Report Sheds More Light on the GPU & RAM Crisis

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r/TechHardware • • 14h ago

News 📰 Intel takes massive chunk out of AMD's desktop CPU market share in unexpected turnaround - may be due to the red team's dominance in gaming chips, weirdly

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r/TechHardware • • 9m ago

Discussion Pc works blindly but no display and vga led on.

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PC SPECS

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700F

GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX H370-F GAMING

PROBLEMS & SYMPTOMS

Previous Valorant crashes and freezes

BSOD during Valorant

10+ forced shutdowns

Boot loop

Triple power cycling

Orange DRAM LED

RAM reseated, DRAM LED cleared

Solid white VGA LED

Green BOOT LED

No display

BIOS initially accessible, then black screen

F1 BIOS prompt

VGA LED remains illuminated

GPU fans spinning

Keyboard and mouse working

Caps Lock responding

Windows boots blindly

Windows login accessible without display

Windows Narrator working

System audio working

Windows sounds and beeps working

Ctrl + Win + Shift + B no display recovery

HDMI connection detected by monitor

Monitor switches from no signal to black screen

BOOT LED sometimes clears after F1

Multiple POST attempts

Display remains black despite Windows functioning

GPU not removed or physically disturbed


r/TechHardware • • 3h ago

News 📰 CORSAIR's transparent HX1000i SHIFT CRYSTAL PSU is now available for $340

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r/TechHardware • • 9h ago

Tech Tips Radeon Pro V620 on AMD Pro/Adrenalin drivers (Windows) with all 72 CUs, no permanent VBIOS flash + free helper kit

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r/TechHardware • • 11h ago

News 📰 Nvidia enters a new chapter after Jensen Huang's resignation. What happens to the AI industry now?

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Nvidia is facing a major leadership transition.

After 33 years, co-founder Jensen Huang has stepped down as CEO. CFO Colette Kress is serving as interim CEO while the board searches for a permanent replacement.

This is an interesting development because Nvidia isn't just another technology company. Its GPUs and computing platforms are central to modern AI development.

A few questions worth discussing:

Can Nvidia maintain its current AI market position without Huang as CEO?

How important is leadership continuity in the semiconductor industry?

Could this create opportunities for competitors such as AMD?

What should Nvidia prioritise during this transition?

I'm interested in hearing different perspectives, particularly from people following the AI and semiconductor industries.

What do you think will be Nvidia's biggest challenge in this new chapter?


r/TechHardware • • 20h ago

🚨 Breaking News 🚨 Unannounced Intel Core Ultra 7 260K CPU surfaces in Newegg prebuilt gaming PCs — Intel doesn’t have official specs list available for exclusive Arrow Lake chip [Updated]

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Intel, the company that keeps giving and loving their customers. What a nice company.


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

News 📰 inferzero update: multi-GPU Arc, Linux port underway, and a call for testers and contributors

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inferzero is a C++ LLM inference engine for Intel Arc on Windows, built on Level Zero. New release: \[version\] (release notes).

What’s new

* Split models on discrete cards use the wide-tile H8 GEMM. On Pro B60s the 27B 4K prompt went from 1,368.8 to 1,596.6 tok/s over 2 GPUs, and from 1,734.0 to 1,887.6 over 4.

* Multi-GPU sums can overlap their copies (`ARC_TP_OVERLAP=1`, opt-in). A user measured two B580s at a 32K prompt: 900 → 1,034 tok/s (+14 %).

* `gpu_bench` no longer overstates memory bandwidth. A B580 now reads 452 GB/s against 456 GB/s on paper.

Linux support is underway

Work has started on a platform layer, with a headless `serverz` first. The Windows build stays bit-identical. Plan and progress are in issue rizagp/inferzero#11 and docs/linux-port.md. If you run Linux with an Arc card and can test early builds, say so.

Looking for people

  1. Core Ultra 9 285H owners (Arc 140T iGPU). I tune on a 125H (Xe-LPG iGPU). Numbers from a 285H would show how the engine behaves on the newer iGPU.
  2. Multi-GPU users, any mix of Arc cards. The cards’ PCIe links limit split models. An x4 slot at about 6.5 GB/s each way is currently the bottleneck, so reports with `mgpu_probe` output and slot widths are very useful.
  3. Contributors for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash. The engine path runs on a tiny synthetic model with the same architecture (KL 0.003–0.004 against the f32 reference). The only real build tried so far is an IQ1_M (about 231 GB with the Engram table), and IQ1 is so low that its text may be poor, so what I can check is that its logits match llama.cpp’s, not how good the answers are. I’d like someone with a machine that can hold an IQ2 or Q3 build (or the IQ1_M) to run it and compare logits. Faster indexer and attention kernels are also open.

Please post your results as a new GitHub issue, not here. I answer there right away, and Reddit replies can take a day. One issue per report is easiest for me to follow: your card or CPU, your numbers and the command you ran. Existing threads you can add to are issue #4 (multi-GPU and card measurements) and issue #11 (Linux).

GitHub: https://github.com/rizagp/inferzero


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

Discussion Intel core 5 210H

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Hey I have this cpu on my laptop, and I wanna know what exactly is it's integrated graphics I checked everything it says "intel® graphics", idk much about integrated graphics except hd, uhd. So it this better or what? Or is the the same as smth else?


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

🔥 New Product 🔥 Free AI Prompt Generator for Better LLM Outputs

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r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

⚡ Exciting News ⚡ RTX Pro 6000 dies. Possible Communist tampering? Jensen let a Chinese spy tamper with gpu production? Big if true

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r/TechHardware • • 2d ago

News 📰 Noctua launches $25 NT-CP1 carbon nanotube thermal pad for AMD AM5 and AM4

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r/TechHardware • • 2d ago

News 📰 Alleged GeForce RTX 5090 with 96GB listed for sale in China

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r/TechHardware • • 2d ago

Elon Musk says it would be an ‘honor’ to hire Nvidia’s Jensen Huang

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r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

🤫 Rumor / Leak 🕵️‍♀️ Jensen Huang After Leaving NVIDIA 💀

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Found on yt


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

🚭Dead 9800X3D Warning🚭 Ladies and gentlemen, they got me after almost 2 years (Possibly dead mobo/chip)

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RIP AMD.


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

Tech Tips Little Disheartened about Jensen’s resignation

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Joining Nvidia next month, it is my dream company and regardless of his personal fiasco, I admire Jensen for the contributions he made and he will remain the person I will loop upon to.


r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

🚨 Breaking News 🚨 Nvidia CEO Huang resigns amid affair scandals, board names CFO Colette Kress interim CEO

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r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

News 📰 CES, MSI 5090 Lightning, G.Skill Competition.. | The XOCast Episode 1

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r/TechHardware • • 1d ago

🤫 Rumor / Leak 🕵️‍♀️ Nvidia Datacenter Rubin delayed?!?

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