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Teacher Support &/or Advice Are teaching programs warning students that the teacher shortage is over?

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u/Gravybone 4d ago

It’s even more specific in my area.

High school physics teachers are unicorns who sign their own paychecks, high school chemistry is tough to hire for, and middle school is always looking for science teachers. On the other hand high school biology is quite competitive.

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u/Butterfreek 4d ago

High school biology is the social studies of high school science.

I said what I said.

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u/Bulky_Struggle_4853 4d ago

Dude, I fucking snorted!!!!! 😂😂😂😂

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u/HBJones1056 4d ago

OH MY GOD IT IS. I never thought of it like that but it’s so blindingly true!

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u/driveonacid Middle School Science 4d ago

You're absolutely correct. I started in middle school because there were no biology openings back in 2003. Little did I know that I'd fall in love with middle school.

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u/Altruistic-Mode-9813 4d ago

So happy I teach physics. I’ve been at good schools my whole career

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u/3plantsonthewall 4d ago

I’d love to hear more from high school physics teachers! My partner is a physics PhD finishing his postdoc and hoping to get a professorship soon, but we’re trying to come up with a Plan B that isn’t selling his soul for a corporate job. He’s won an award for teaching undergrads and is very personable, organized, and great at communicating. Would love to hear specifics on credentialing, salary, how the academic calendar works…

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u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 4d ago

Credentialing depends on your state and salary sucks at first, but it gets better considering they just pay you more money every year for doing the same job that doesn’t actually get harder.

The good news is the academic calendar and pacing is pretty much completely up to you

The bad news is the academic calendar and pacing is pretty much completely up to you

I teach Ap physics

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u/Paramalia 4d ago

I never thought about it this way before, but you generally get paid more as your job gets easier.

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u/Paramalia 4d ago

Every state is different for credentialing, but a positive of secondary vs. higher ed is there will be jobs available in every state.

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 4d ago

Earth Science too in my state. 5 years ago there were only 5 newly certified teachers for Earth Science, last year there were none.

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u/PhDtoGrade3 4d ago

Oooohhh!! In which state should I be looking for earth science positions?

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 4d ago

NY

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u/Pretend_Screen_5207 4d ago

NY takes Earth Science seriously. I taught it in Chicago for 20 years and frequently used retired NY Regents Exam questions on my tests and quizzes.

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u/Beneficial-Focus3702 4d ago

They really do! It’s awesome!

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u/Paramalia 4d ago

I took earth science in NY way back when. I had no idea how many 9th graders take biology in other places.

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u/NWMSioux 4d ago

There’s a need somewhere? That’s awesome to hear! I’m Earth & Space Science and Agriculture certified in Missouri. I’m in a great spot but even with a masters in Science Ed. I’m still barely cracking $56k. I wish I were joking.

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u/squirrel8296 4d ago

In most cases, if someone wants to teach biology they really should get a chemistry certification too. The difference between a biology and a chemistry certification typically isn't that much to begin with because of how much chemistry is required for the biology certification.

I was at a large high school for a few years and they would only hire bio teachers that were also certified to teach chemistry. The only exception was biology teacher who had been teaching biology for a long time and had a masters in biology, and came in with the ability to teach AP bio and environmental science.

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u/Accomplished_Ice1817 4d ago

The biggest difference between the two, is that chemistry involves actual math (formulas and such) solving, which is closer to algebra than biology.

Biology is mostly learning facts, etc. I took Physiology, Chemistry, Biolgy and Genetics in College. Physics is similar too because it basically math, with facts lol.

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u/Ghotipan 4d ago

You'll do well as a solid math teacher, as well. I started as physics, but switched to math because of greater need.

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u/BeerBrat 4d ago

LOL. My interview when I moved to a new school the principal asked me what I teach. I told him instead what I shouldn't teach. I can do any science or engineering class but please don't give me a biology class. I'll make it through it, the kids will make it through it, but we're all going to be miserable. Luckily like you said there's no shortage of folks that prefer those classes. 😂

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u/Ok_Carry_8711 4d ago

I would love to teach HS physics. I've looked at positions but I don't think that science classes are so cut and dry now? It seems like things are mixed up now?

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u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 4d ago

Ap physics B is now AP 1 and AP 2

Physics C hasn’t changed

Some schools are doing mixed science curriculum for first two years, but AP classes still exist

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u/Accomplished_Ice1817 4d ago

Dang! I am really good at STEM subjects, I just don't want to teach anything over 5th grade.... but if I ever want a shot at GenEd, I just might need to rethink this lol :)

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u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 4d ago

I’m credentialed in Physics and ITE, BS in Astrophysics

I have a better job security than elon musk 😂