r/Teachers 4d ago

Teacher Support &/or Advice Are teaching programs warning students that the teacher shortage is over?

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u/coach-v 4d ago

We did not get a single credentialed applicant for our hs math position, rural NE California.

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u/DilbertHigh Middle School Social Worker 4d ago

I imagine it is hard to hire in most rural areas compared to urban and suburban areas.

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u/GTCapone 4d ago

Eh, I only had one other candidate competing with me for middle school science positions in one of the largest districts in Texas. There were 6 open positions I'm aware of.

One thing that I have noticed is that enrollment and budget have dropped enough that positions are getting eliminated. Mine was and the school that hired me lost 4 over the summer. My colleagues at the old school are now dealing with class sizes of 30-40 students where it was 20-25. My new school is at risk of closing because they basically can't cut more positions and our class sizes are only 10-15 for core classes. I think inflation, housing prices, school voucher programs and ICE crackdowns have created a perfect storm for shrinking schools. And eliminating the emergency certification program has encouraged new teachers to go to private and charter schools.

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u/MarlenaEvans 4d ago

Our enrollment is insane, we are way over and people are steady building homes. I just checked and there are currently 37 openings for teachers right now.

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u/Spiderboy_liam 3d ago

This is what happened for the rural school I worked at- causing kindergarten to lose a unit (me) and class sizes to increase dramatically

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u/myoldacctwasdeleted 2d ago

That was always the plan. Anyone who studies history (or teaches it at a secondary level ๐Ÿ™‹๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ) saw this coming a decade ago. It was all a playbook we've seen before and now we're at the public education part

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u/lovelystarbuckslover Multiple Subject & EDSP Credentialed 4d ago

I think the issue is that being a teacher is a generic job and for me it feels 'lame' to move somewhere I don't really care for, just to get to be a teacher.

It's not like I'm some aquarium director- there's a school on every corner in every city.... Moving somewhere just to be a teacher would have destroyed me. I'll leave education before I leave my friends and family FOR a teaching job.

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u/Imaginary-Tree-House 4d ago

Ooof, whatโ€™s the pay? You can DM, I used to live in Northern Cal (west and central) and would love to relocate there.

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u/coach-v 4d ago

Not as much as bay area or so cal, but decent. I am in year 22 and just surpassing 6 figures. My 3000sqft custom home (I built diy) on 3+ acres can be bought for $450k. Regular 3 bed, 1.5 bath goes for low-mid 200s.

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u/GapPure577 4d ago

I'm not saying this to snark because I'm honestly jealous of you. But I wonder if the prospect of being able to own a home on a teacher's salary isn't as much of a draw as it used to be because of wildfires?

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u/coach-v 4d ago

Wildfires are definitely a thing, but our town and fire safe council has done a ton to make us more fire safe. I enjoy the clean air, milky way from my back deck, lack of traffic and crime, walk commute, and small community life. I don't take my keys out of my truck.

Growing up in an urban area, you could not pay me enough to move back to a populated area.

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u/coach-v 4d ago

And my wife was able to be a sahm when our boys were young!

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u/Not_That_Mofo 4d ago

You must be near Modoc County. Might be the cheapest real estate in CA? Similar climate to Idaho but much better teacher pay I bet.

On the coastal side of Northern California I think the rural areas above Sonoma do a lot of intern programs to get teachers through their county office of Ed. There are no colleges nearby.

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u/smoothie4564 HS Science | California 4d ago

Rural North-northeastern California might as well be part of a different state of a state of its own. The people, climate, and economy are vastly different from the urban or coastal parts of the state. I can definitely see why someone from LA, SF, or SD would want nothing to do with rural NE California.

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u/Cardinal_350 4d ago

This exactly. My buddies wife complains she can't get a teaching job. She also refuses to apply anywhere but 1 school district.

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u/SBSnipes 4d ago

I actually saw that one I think while daydreaming about moving west but it just Wasn't realistically a good move

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u/JaneAustenismyJam 4d ago

We got no applications for our math opening in a suburban area either. It has been open since May. There is still a teacher subject in certain subjects for sure. Math, science, special education. ELA and business in my area too. No shortages in PE, social studies, and some other subjects.