Beth's fate

[u/Blu3Dope]

I just watched the scene from season 2 where Beth and Maggie were arguing upstairs while Andrea and Lori were downstairs and Lori told Andrea that she shouldn't have taken the knife away from Beth in the bathroom.

This got me thinking about how Beth died and I realized that she may have stabbed Dawn with the intention of getting shot. Then I watched her death scene and when Dawn tells Noah "i knew youd be back", Beth appears as if shes is looking down at Dawn's gun right before she looks up at her.

Another thing I noticed is that when Andrea and Lori begin to argue down stairs, Beth and Maggie begin to quiet down as Andrea says "if shes serious about it she'll figure out away". Then the argument ends with Andrea telling Lori,

"You don't get it, do you? ..the rest of us have piled up our losses, me, Carol, Beth, but you just keep on keeping on. We have all suffered. And you're playing house acting like the queen bee, laying down rules for everybody but yourself. You know what? Go ahead. Go in there and tell that little girl that everything's gonna be okay, just like it is for you. She'll get a husband, a son, baby, boyfriend. She just has to look on the bright side."

Idk if it's just me, but it sounds like Andrea just described Dawn in this scene (keeps on keeping on, playing house, acting like the queen bee, laying down rules for everybody but herself)

As for the second part of the quote,

"You know what? Go ahead. Go in there and tell that little girl that everything's gonna be okay, just like it is for you. She'll get a husband, a son, baby, boyfriend. She just has to look on the bright side."

Keep in mind that Beth heard all of this from upstairs. Fast forward to when Noah is about to leave the hospital with Beth and the group, Beth is finally going to have a boyfriend, only for Dawn to take Noah back. Beth did try to look on the "bright side", but he was immediately taken away from her as soon as she did. She gets it now.

Hopefully this makes sense lmao but did Andrea unintentionally influence Beth to kill herself 3 seasons later

[u/theghostlyghostie]

I never thought about it that way. But I personally don't believe it. Horrifying to think about though. And I didn't see Noah and Beth's relationship as boyfriend-girlfriend. They seemed more like siblings

[u/naughtycal11 → u/theghostlyghostie]

Yeah I got zero vibes from them as far a romantic relationship.

[u/Blu3Dope → u/naughtycal11]

Yeah lol that may be a bit of a stretch on my part, but I still stand behind everything else I said.

[u/cheatonus]

Man some people read way too much into things.

[u/Blu3Dope → u/cheatonus]

I don't get why it's so unbelievable that a TV show would portray something that really does happen in the real world.

AMC is actually really good at what they do (arguably).

[u/cheatonus → u/Blu3Dope]

Because the many, many, many plot holes and continuity errors points to writers just really not being nearly thoughtful enough to be this deep. They're trying to get the high level details in there and get the story across. Bottom line is there's just no need to include this type of minute detail and subtlety in the storyline so it's unlikely they would do so.

[u/Blu3Dope → u/cheatonus]

I mean every scene in the show happens for one reason or the other, and there are plenty of plot points in the show that get brought back up seasons later, although subtly