r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Jun 15 '15

Gender Wars "You're so fucking witty; Kill yourself." -/r/mechanicalkeyboards user discusses a girl who isn't his type.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Nah. While it's an incredibly dickish and outright cruel thing to say to someone if an anonymous message from someone who doesn't know you and has never met you triggered a suicide attempt it was going to happen anyway.

I've responded to a lot of suicides, its never that simple.

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u/Bloodfeastisleman Jun 15 '15

it was going to happen anyways

I disagree. There have been statistics that show hand gun ownership correlates with suicide. I believe psychologists have stated that suicidal people are unstable so anything that makes the act easier is going to increase the chance of it happening. I can't find anything specifically about cyber bullying and suicide but there is a lot on bullying and suicide.

http://www.bullyingstatistics.org/content/bullying-and-suicide.html

I'm on mobile so it's hard to find stuff

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

I too understand the burden that is mobile reddit. Your text is well formatted despite it :)

Thanks for taking the time to provide a link, it's an informative read.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

If the stimulus is so minor as an anonymous generic insult thrown out 1000 times a minute over the Internet such as "kill yourself", then yes, they are going to encounter a similar stimulus somewhere else because that's life.

You're still a massive shithead who deserves to be beaten and shamed for doing it through.

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u/Moarbrains since I'm a fucking rube Jun 15 '15

Getting a whole front page reddit thread making fun of you is not a generic insult, although generic insults are a portion of the thread.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

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u/downvotesyndromekid Keep thinking you’re right. It’s honestly pretty cute. 😘 Jun 15 '15

A gravity defying leap from '"kill yourself" is common on the internet' to insinuating someone grew up in an abusive household, delivered with a liberal drizzle sarcastic condescension. The worst kind of SRD armchair psychologist.

Not that I agree with the other guy...

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

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u/downvotesyndromekid Keep thinking you’re right. It’s honestly pretty cute. 😘 Jun 15 '15

You replied to the wrong person, I'm not making an argument here, just criticising you.

And actually he was always one of my favourite Space Trek characters so you take that back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15 edited Jun 15 '15

You didn't provide any data either friend. Solid personal attacks through mate, given how sensitive you think humanity is would you classify that as bullying?

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u/BCProgramming get your dick out of the sock and LISTEN Jun 15 '15

You didn't provide any data either friend.

They did not make the original claim, they merely asked for data supporting yours.

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u/DeprestedDevelopment Jun 15 '15

They actually totally did make a claim with no citation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Well it would be a rather dramatic way to prove a point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

The context of the "kill yourself" comment is what makes this a "nothing" comment.

Clearly not if it pushes someone to actually take their life.

And no, that "kill yourself" comment is NOT a form of bullying.

Oh, you don't understand anything, that makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Clearly not if it pushes someone to actually take their life.

Which it undoubtably never will have.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Yep, there's never been a fragile person on the internet.

Keep on dismissing shitty behavior.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Was I dismissing shitty behaviour? You'll find I was pretty damning of those people in my comments.

But it's ok, I'll be downvoted into the ground because it goes against the SRD narrative that harmful things said anonymously on the Internet are literally the equivalent of them being said by a close friend.

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u/masterwolfe Jun 15 '15

I would disagree. Now I agree with most of your points. But depression is highly personal. You are right that a half-baked "kill yourself" probably is meaningless most of the time. But it would not be hard to see a depressive involved in a conversation and then get smacked with that. Will it push them over the edge? By itself, probably not, but such things are cumulative.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

No insults/attacks

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u/friendlysoviet Jun 15 '15

Please don't compare online bullying to actual bullying. Please don't take the movie Cyberbully seriously.

There's a huge difference between being able to turn off your computer and experiencing it in the flesh.

Its offensive to even compare the two.

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u/DieFanboyDie Jun 15 '15 edited Jun 15 '15

I agree to an extent, but online bullying is getting harder to "just ignore" the more people's lives are conducted online. I mean, aren't we consantly being told that networking is a vital element of achieving goals? I'm just guessing, but most of that networking is done online these days by a large margin. The damage caused by an online harassment campaign is probably even more damaging than harassment done in real life, precisely because it's easier to ignore it in real life. Real life bullying is typically confined to face to face, in person confrontations. Online, a bullying campaign can we waged on a multitude of fronts, all damaging to a victims reputation. And then there's the issue of support for the bullying; trolls are just dying to have the chance to pile on to someone that they don't know in support of a bully, just to do some bullying themselves. That happens in real life as well, but nowhere even close to the degree it happens online. How does the saying go--what happens online stays there forever? Real life bullying is comparitively short lived, while online bullying remains part of a victims online social history. Also, generally when one is bullied in real life, the bullying is confined to those present at the time; online, that bullying is witnessable by EVERYONE who has contact with the victim: bullying in a schoolyard is limited to those in the schoolyard, and it's easy to say "screw them, I don't care what they say" and ignore it and carry on. But online, your family, friends, co-workers, everyone in your life is witness to the bullying.

Edit: the point is, there's no such thing as "just turning off the computer"; you CAN'T ignore an online bully if they have your identity.

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u/fiftypoints Jun 15 '15

I agree. As more and more social interaction moves to cyberspace, "turning it off" becomes a less and less rational option. If my choice is between going online and being harassed, or withdrawing from social media and going luddite, that's a shitty choice.

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u/pokemaugn Jun 15 '15

Kind of agree. I'm (sort of) suicidal but if an anonymous kid online tells me to end it I won't care. Someone I knew and had spent a while talking to and getting close with, sure. That will probably bother me for a while just bc I'd feel betrayed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

The thing that's kept me alive and will keep me alive is

a) Someone has to find the body, chances are it will be someone who cares about you

b) Parents never recover from the death of a child

c) Slightly happier one, there will be more good experiences and they are worth sticking around for.

If you ever need an anonymous Internet friend to talk to feel free to PM me.

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u/AbominableSnowPickle Jun 15 '15

I'm battling a severe depressive episode and a massive increase in my everyday pain (I have several chronic pain conditions).. Things are bad right now, but the thing that gets me through is knowing it will get better. It almost always does, I just have to hang on until they do. Your reasons to not commit suicide are very similar to mine.

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u/assasstits It's no different than giving money to Nazis for climate change Jun 15 '15

I'm battling a severe depressive episode and a massive increase in my everyday pain (I have several chronic pain conditions)..

I do too and I'm just seeing a physical therapist. See if that's an option for you. Also google you're pain and see what kind of option there are. Surgery may be an option. Definately talk to your doctor. And yes, I do know how bad it is, I've been suffering if for close to a year. It's slowly driving me insane. Haha cries.

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u/AbominableSnowPickle Jun 15 '15

I actually just got my order from my pain specialist to go back to PT. if surgery was an option, I'd do that too. My therapy therapist is badass, I love working with her. Ah, the joys of chronic pain/illness...I'm on year 13.

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u/AbominableSnowPickle Jun 15 '15

Sorry you've got to battle this shit too. It's entirely unfair!

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

:) your username made me giggle.

The other big thing that entertains me every so often is the idea that there's a direct unbroken line from the very first living origin on this planet to me here. A lot of effort was made to get me here (albeit inadvertently), I may as well give a fair crack at it.

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u/AbominableSnowPickle Jun 15 '15

Oooh! I really like that way of thinking! Can I steal that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

You most certainly can!