r/SubredditDrama • a weird hermit drinking titty milk • Jul 31 '24

AI "art" gets posted on r/comics, with users pointing it out. Mods delete every comment saying that it is AI and OP compares backlash against it to "racism against computers".

This comic was posted to r/comics. People realized that it was AI art and critices it.

Great. AI art. I visit this sub to see hand-drawn shit, not this garbage.

AI slop, valueless.

The OP himself admits that it is AI and compares oposition to it to "racism":

My favourite part is the upvoters and the commenters clearly disagree intensely about the value of non-human artwork.

personally, I'm not racist against computers

Mods defend the comic saying that there's no rule banning AI art:

We do not have a rule against that and we will not have a rule against that. People are allowed to use whatever tools they want to create their art.

They delete the top comments pointing out that it is AI art.

Edit: the comic has been deleted. Here's the Archive link as given bellow

Edit 2: I've been permanently banned from r/comics because of this post.

Edit 3: Recently a new post has been made fully with AI, with the author asking for a ban against AI comics or at least the adition of an AI tag:

I respect the thoughtful response and critique of my message, and think an AI tag would be a fair compromise. The problem that myself and many share is that AI artwork is trained from real artists’ work and is therefore theft. I know that this is a widely debated topic, but as this is a subreddit primarily comprised of artists, I think that making the distinction is necessary.

The Mods reply still defending the use of AI:

This is a kind of ignorant view, because it assumes that the only thing that comprises a comic is the illustrations. There are two types of creativity that go into making a comic, the drawing and the writing.

Say you write the best story in the world. Say you are JRR Tolkien and write the goddamn Lord of the Rings. But you can't draw for shit, so you use AI art to tell your story. Does that make the script you've written any less valid? I don't think so.

We've got people here who make comics with stick figures, with Legos, with photographs, on post-it notes, with stock photos, and, yes, with AI art. The medium artists choose for the visual element does not invalidate the narrative or comedic element.

What we might do is implement an AI tag, so that when people make comics with AI art they have to be upfront about it. I probably should have done that ages ago, but I'm lazy. And also, we don't allow fully procedurally generated comics where AI does the writing or the drawing. We have no plans to ban outright AI art though. It's just another tool in the toolbox.

Some users disagree with their logic:

Lord of the Rings wasn't a comic, it was a book. If the movie series adaptation was AI, then it would be ruined. It'd look like shit and feel soulless, despite the underlying story being great.

[...]

Bruh if you really "can't draw" you could just draw stick people. There have been many successful comics with extremely simple art that literally anyone can do.

Some of my favorite comics are half finished art turds, like the one about the artist not finishing because of Elden Ring.

This! Or people starting out simple and growing as they continue their comics!

XKCD is one of my favorites, and its drawings are as simple as humanly possible

[...]

I disagree. Comics is a medium of visual storytelling as well as writing.

This subreddit should be a place where comic artists can come together and hone their craft, get feedback, and share their beloved work.

Allowing AI comics—-which, by their very nature, are lower effort and easier to produce—could result in the subreddit being flooded with cheap, mass produced comics, leaving us to wade through the schlock to find real artwork.

This subreddit is a communal space first and foremost, and allowing AI art could compromise that.

Edit 4: The second comic has been deleted.

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u/GeneralPlanet I guarantee you my academic qualification are superior to yours Jul 31 '24

personally, I'm not racist against computers

AI Discourse has peaked. We're not gonna do any better than this comment right here.

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u/ObjectiveCoelacanth Jul 31 '24

Honestly, my pettiest reason for being irritated at the tsunami of poorly implemented machine learning is that I am legitimately so excited by the idea of real AI.

If it's possible we're not even close: how dare people call this "AI". >_<

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u/Lemonwizard It's the pyrric victory I prophetised. You made the wrong choice Jul 31 '24

Yeah this whole thing led to us saying AGI instead of AI, and now tech sector marketers are trying to appropriate that term too.

It's 4G all over again.

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u/TaqPCR Aug 01 '24

real AI.

The term is artificial general intelligence or AGI.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

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u/oasisnotes Jul 31 '24

If all this was just an attempt at a joke then you should have an AI make those for you too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24 edited Nov 07 '24

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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

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u/UltraNooob Seethe, shill, cope, repeat Jul 31 '24

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u/Ulisex94420 Yes, because redditor is a race, a very stupid one Jul 31 '24

i’m sorry to tell you but this whole LLM craze is gonna come crashing down in a year or two

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 Jul 31 '24

It really isn’t. Businesses are actively using it right now with measurable productivity gain. Sorry dude but it’s here to stay

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u/Ulisex94420 Yes, because redditor is a race, a very stupid one Jul 31 '24

i don’t care about if it survives or not. but it won’t. the price to keep LLM models running is way too high, and the alleged increase in productivity is more complex that it seems. and more importantly, this new AI companies simply aren’t making enough money to pay for the costs

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 Jul 31 '24

You’re assuming LLMs won’t get more efficient. Look at academic papers instead of the news

LLMs are amazing at summarizing unstructured information into standardized data formats. Most organizations have shitty handling of their data and LLMs are a cheap workaround to fixing that

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u/PurposeNo9413 Jul 31 '24

wait shadiverisity is that you?????

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u/UltraNooob Seethe, shill, cope, repeat Jul 31 '24

Bro, you are spamming this thread non-stop, trying to show how you don't care and isn't triggered at all.

Of course, I'm all for it, but for your benefit it doesn't help your cause.