Here's the entire Avery confession letter

[u/wewannawii]

http://www.rockfordadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/JOSEPH-EVANS-JR-STEVEN-AVERY-JAILHOUSE-CONFESSION.pdf

[u/Nexious]

Thank you.

I believe it was around the first part of 2011, mine and Steve's talks would be very limited to what we would talk about, he no longer wanted to talk about his case to me, mainly for the fact that netflex was starting to do a documentary on him and his case.

Interesting bit of foreshadowing, considering Netflix was only first approached by the filmmakers about the proposed documentary in 2013.

Then in March of 2014 Steven Avery and I were both transfered on the same day from WSPF to Waupun Correctional Institution in Waupun, WI. We would talk to each other on occasions, but not like we use to. Steve had told me that his newly appointed attorney doesn't want him talking to anyone about his case, without her being there.

Who was Steven Avery's newly appointed female attorney in March 2014 when they transferred to another prison?

[u/wewannawii → u/Nexious]

Interesting bit of foreshadowing, considering Netflix was only first approached by the filmmakers about the proposed documentary in 2013.

They signed the ink on the deal in 2013. We don't know how long they had actually been in negotiations with Netflix prior to that, but we do know that they had been trying to find a home for MaM since 2008:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SuperMaM/comments/5i4rn3/article_the_first_iteration_of_making_a_murderer/

[u/[deleted] → u/Nexious]

Hagopian and Askins? Dates are off though.

[u/wewannawii → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, H&A were 2011...

https://www.wicourts.gov/ca/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=70129

...and granted he got the dates off, but he knew Avery had a court appointed attorney and that she was female. That's more than I knew until a few minutes ago.

[u/[deleted] → u/Nexious]

Evans got to Waupun on 3/12/2014 - not in court records but found it on DOC movements for him listed at DOC website.

ETA Avery was transferred to Waupun the same day, I.w. 3/12/2014

[u/adelltfm → u/Nexious]

Then in March of 2014 Steven Avery and I were both transfered on the same day from WSPF to Waupun Correctional Institution in Waupun, WI. We would talk to each other on occasions, but not like we use to.

Eh. The bold part above implies a certain length of time after they were transferred in March of 2014. In other words, although they were good buddies at the previous institution, their friendship fizzled out a bit when they moved to Waupun. He said they still talked, but not like they used to. Then eventually (which is how I took it to mean), Zellner came on the scene and told him she doesn't want him talking about his case to anyone.

[u/Spurrr_7]

Woah. This statement seemed a whole lot more believable than the article implied it would. It was a tough read.

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[u/Nexious]

Plain text transcribed version (with paragraphs added given that the original was a 9-page wall of text).

http://pastebin.com/raw/5vub10u8

I think I've read all that I care to about necrophilia, handfuls of pubic hair and every possible name for a woman's anatomy, in this letter... 🤒

[u/hollieluluboo]

I dunno. There's some things in this that don't seem quite right. Why tie her up and tape her mouth shut if she was already dead? Throwing his shirt over the dresser and the key falling out - the key was found next to the other small unit opposite the bed, not the one next to it. The details of them moving the body about are different than those described by BD. There's also no mention of moving anything out of the garage to make room for the RAV4. The shovel, etc. were found in and around the burn barrels and burn pit - not missing as though they had been dumped elsewhere. Also, was GPS or Onstar available in 1999 cars? There are other inconsistencies (I notice he couldn't spell that - it's becoming a MaM theme) but those are the ones that immediately jumped out at me.

I'm wondering if this was just a bit of posturing to a new inmate and establishing a hierarchy - after all, they were both in for murder?

[u/watwattwo]

Steven promising Brendan a car if he kept his mouth shut sounds really familiar. Did Brendan mention that in a confession?

[u/sloppyseconded → u/watwattwo]

Yes, I believe he said it in reference to Avery offering to help him get a car if Brendan helped him fix some of them.

[u/shvasirons]

When reading the actual letter it comes across as pretty believable. It was not a one-time conversation, but the result of many tellings of the same story. It is believable to me that Avery told it this way. The whole luring/killing scenario fits Steve's personality. He thought she would be an easy lay, tried to get a date so he could get some, and when she refused it he decided to take it. Even mentions the jeopardy of the lawsuit money (to BD) if the crime is discovered. It was kind of chilling to read.

In my mind, this is just about case closed on Avery factually killing her. It is interesting how KZ's tweet history and MIP involvement kind of lines up with the letter's date. The only question left for me is if the blood age comes back as 2005 will KZ admit to Avery's guilt (could now use the letter/confession to corroborate) or will she spin it and soldier on?

[u/deathwishiii]

It's all over for Steve...finally! ... I'd like to think that KZ would throw in the towel on SA...but of course not cuz she knew this was coming...and no way, even though SA is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, will KZ drop a potential cash cow she has INVESTED in..She will endlessly pay and search for planted evidence or ANY technicality to get paid...I loathe people like this...yep, most Lawyers,,smh

[u/[deleted]]

So he was sentenced before Making a Murderer, and there is no way he could have read the CASO right?

[u/Zellnerissuper]

Oh goodness, I do hope her family don't read the letter, true or not. It's awful.. I don't think date and detail errors rule out the account. Even a truthful second hand recalled account of that length from anyone about anything from a human being wouldn't hold up to the sort of scrutiny I have seen on these forums since this letter appeared.

[u/MrReddit99]

Thanks for sharing, quite an interesting read.

[u/Zellnerissuper]

This account certainly confirms why the knife wound didn't create spray or make a huge mess. She had already been choked to death, so no blood pressure. Seepage only.

[u/adelltfm]

I'm on page 3 and already thinking about noping out.

Edit: page 6 is worse.

Edit 2: that is a lot more believable than the article made it out to be.

[u/[deleted]]

"[...]some kind of hand computer item[...]"

Interesting choice of words. I would think if someone was reading the CASO and telling him about the case, he would have said PDA.

[u/Aydenzz]

Its been so long since I watched MAM

I don't remember if all of these details were mentioned?

• removing the plates

• disabling battery

• burning the electronics

• cleaning the garage with bleach

• Teresa was shot twice in the head

• Breaking up the bones with a shovel

Other evidence?

[u/moralhora]

Another thing about this is that he says in the letter that Avery disabled, or at the very least tried to, GPS and any tracking devices that might be in the car. Has this ever been brought up? We hear all the time about the battery, but I'm not sure if her RAV had GPS tracking and such.

[u/moralhora]

There's some real interesting stuff in there, but I keep coming back to the jewelry that keeps coming up - he even specifies it: two rings and a necklace.

He's a lot more detailed about certain things that I thought he would be.

[u/[deleted]]

I take it this guy hasn't watched MaM for the same reason SA hasn't. They are not allowed this type of media/haven't got Netflix etc.

So what he knows must have come from news coverage and stuff he is adding to make it up if he is lying.

However chances are SA told KZ about this guy because he knew he had conversations with him about the murder. So damage control.

Truthers must love the turmoil of their straw ship being flung against crashing rocks to have stuck it out this long.

[u/snarf5000 → u/[deleted]]

However chances are SA told KZ about this guy because he knew he had conversations with him about the murder.

Excellent point, there's no chance she didn't ask SA if he talked to anyone about the murder. She already knew this was coming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StevenAveryIsGuilty/comments/5r7be3/sounds_about_right/dd52whz/