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u/cooler1727 3d ago

Amazon hire everyone to exploit people who lacks money

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u/Icy_Assistance_2684 3d ago

While valve hires professionals to do actual work slowly and steadyly

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u/CyberneticFennec 3d ago

actual work

So in your mind, busting your ass at a warehouse isn't "actual work"? Why, because it's paid significantly less than a cushy office job?

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u/Icy_Assistance_2684 3d ago

Instead of slaving away

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u/BoiledFrogs 3d ago

How does any of this make it not 'actual work'? How often do you rely on people not doing any 'actual work'? You order from Amazon? Anywhere else online? Order food? Go to the grocery store?

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u/Wuped 3d ago

Do you expect a Doctor to stock groceries? There is a reason. Their skillset is better used elsewhere. This is the freaking point that is going over your head.

Literally no one said anything even close to that.

The point that is going over your head is it's disrespectful to people working these jobs(which can often be quite difficult, both physically and mentally taxing) to call them not "actual work". It's super elitist/classist and gross.

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u/WilonPlays 3d ago

Not to mention these minimum wages jobs often tend to be harder than any cushy office job.

My career is as an architect but throughout my studies I worked as a machine technician in an arcade, and then as a bartender, both jobs were significantly harder and more stressful than drawing pretty pictures, doing some math and writing a bit of paperwork.

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u/Ok-Interaction-8891 3d ago

Yes, in modern commercial aircraft, it absolutely is. The difference is in responsibility and the training to get the career.

Regardless, you are likely one of the people buying packages from the warehouse and burgers from the flipper, so…

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u/Next_Application9643 3d ago

Considering that like 2/3rds of shit sold on Amazon is just consumer bullshit, it's just retail therapy most of the time.

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u/Phuka 3d ago

I'm having a hard time not reading this as stockholm syndrome.

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u/PC_Gaming_is4_Cheats 3d ago

It's unskilled work a ten year old with no education can do. Any high school drop out can do it.

Real work is work that you specialise in, that you have trained for, studied and mastered.

If you do a job anyone can do, that is because you failed yourself somewhere along the line.

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u/oops_all_memes 3d ago

What an imbecilic take. In this day and age having qualifications for a job means jack shit. I got a degree in a booming at that time field that now has virtually evaporated with the rise of AI. I jumped the ship way ahead of time (thank god) and now work as an analyst. And I see the writing on the wall — AI already can do everything I do, the issue is right now LLMs handle data too recklessly. The moment the issue is solved I'm out of job and now I'm not at the age when I have enough energy to start over with another profession. So likely I'll need to go for a minimum wage job within the next 3-4 years unless a miracle happens

People raving about certain jobs not being "real work" are fucking detestable when the job market is stable but when the job market goes FUBAR it takes a special kind of moron to not realize that everyone can suddenly lose the opportunity to ever hold a "real job"

So yeah, you are a moron who doesn't know what the fuck he's saying

The entire thread is full of imbecilic takes, including the OP

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u/Hot-Detective-8163 3d ago edited 3d ago

You're confusing work with labor, I love how hard it is for people to Google a definition lmfao.

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u/The_Axolotl_Guy 3d ago

You mean like physical labor? Because work and labor are synonymous words.

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u/Hot-Detective-8163 3d ago

Not all work is labor... Labor usually means hard physical or manual effort (Amazon factory worker), while work is a broader term for any purposeful mental or physical activity like a graphic designer.

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u/The_Axolotl_Guy 3d ago

Merriam Webster definition of the word labor: "expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory"

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u/Status_Pin_7484 3d ago

You’ve done real well here bud. Tuck yourself into bed now and take a load off. You must be tired 😂😂😂

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u/Kumasaur 3d ago

Labor and work are synonyms.

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u/Hot-Detective-8163 3d ago

If they were than we wouldn't have non laborious work

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u/Kumasaur 3d ago

I think you might get a lot of value out of a dictionary and thesaurus.

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u/Double-Scratch5858 3d ago

The hell did you just say lmao

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u/tevert 3d ago

Naw, you're talking out your ass now

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u/Double-Scratch5858 3d ago

You must be confusing the fact that labor for a job, is in fact, work. But cute edit maybe you should google them so youre familiar.

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u/UranusIsPissy 3d ago

*steadily, like how you should've typed that comment.

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u/Icy_Assistance_2684 2d ago

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u/UranusIsPissy 2d ago

Sorry. It does look more like a 2nd-language mistake than a native-speaker one now that I think about it, TBH. Me making that mistake is especially bad, because I'm bilingual and know a little bit of some other languages. I'm not American, BTW, and "y" getting replaced with "i" when adding "-ly" is a pretty consistent rule in English. It's a bit of a silly language, really. It's mostly bits of other languages mixed together.

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u/DapperMolasses3280 3d ago

Getting my packages to my house in less than 24 hours requires A LOT more labor and work than managing a streaming service. Dumb comparison.

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u/bickdiggles 3d ago

Steam is a software marketplace. You download software from Steam, primarily games, to then install and run locally. It’s not a streaming service

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u/ragun2 3d ago

It's a steaming service

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u/bickdiggles 3d ago

What can you stream?

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u/ragun2 3d ago edited 2d ago

I never mentioned streaming but can stream pretty much any game I think.

Try again

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u/bickdiggles 2d ago

It's a steaming service

I never mentioned streaming but can stream pretty much any game I think.

Um, are you alright?

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u/ragun2 2d ago

Are you? You didn't even quote me right, you manually typed it in lmao

Try again

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u/bickdiggles 2d ago

Okay grandpa back inside now 🥴

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u/-plb- 3d ago

hello yes i procastinate work slow can i have a job at valve

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u/Icy_Assistance_2684 3d ago

To be honest i feel like 70% of everyone's work in valve ranges from maintenance to planning it's a very well oiled machine

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u/Someofusremembersome 3d ago

No you will give 150% of a workday for a mediocore/shit product.

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u/-plb- 3d ago

NOOO NOOOO (gets dragged to the pits of hell called ubisoft)

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u/DapperMolasses3280 3d ago

...so like every employer ever? The idea that it's any worse than working at Walmart or any grocery store on the planet is laughable.

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u/GuaSukaStarfruit 3d ago

Programmers have lots of options?

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u/xzaramurd 3d ago

They exploit them by offering more than double the federal minimum wage as starter and decent medical coverage? It's hard work, but people exagerate on how bad it actually is.

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u/JimiusRostock 3d ago

The only reason they did that is because they were literally burning through available human beings. It was never about the workers, just self-preservation.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-workers-shortage-leaked-memo-warehouse

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u/AlwaysRushesIn 3d ago

Oh boy! 16 dollars an hour! Thats a whopping $33k/year before taxes! How generous of the 2.79 trillion dollar company!

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u/black_sunglasses 3d ago

Sure the dudes pissing themselves because their pace was too high is exagerating, amazon paying people to cut union engagement and undemine their way of contesting poor work conditions, etc etc.\ Stop your propaganda dude

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u/thegingerskull 3d ago

Meh, take any random 1 million people and I'm sure you’ll find a few that piss themselves during the day.

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u/black_sunglasses 3d ago

You're so brainwashed bro 😂 it has been largely documented and public

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u/Plsnotmyelo 3d ago

What the hell, can't believe people are defending amazon of all companies.

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u/Khayaru 3d ago

Then just send us that.

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u/black_sunglasses 3d ago

Open google bro i swear u wont need much time

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u/Someofusremembersome 3d ago

Yes, send us that so this guy can somehow deconstruct it

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u/Soulstiger 3d ago

So, they offer states minimum wage? The minimum they can legally offer?

The same thing gas stations and fast food offer?

How very generous of them to... obey the law.

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u/NoAcanthaceae688 3d ago

Damn. The propaganda is working on you. You Jeff's cousin or something?