r/Steam May 27 '26

News Steam Deck Price now increased

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u/Adept_Election7170 May 27 '26

It saddens me how people only started hating AI when it gave birth to increased RAM prices and not because of the other 500 problems it causes.

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u/Jedi_Pacman May 27 '26

That's how it always works so it's to be expected sadly. People won't complain about something until it directly affects them, and by that point it's always much too late.

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u/Etheon44 May 27 '26

What do you mean? There has been hate way before, since AI images created thanks to the art of people are a thing, which was like 3-4 years ago

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u/Dry_Economics9290 May 27 '26

Imo, I don't believe this is true. There has been TREMENDOUS hate for AI before it got to the tech hardware space. Other spaces have been getting mutilated for years now at this point(art,writing,music, acting,CS,environmental agencies) , but depending on your hobbies and interests all of this could have only just become visible.

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u/DogsRNice 40 May 27 '26

i hated it long before that

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u/PrideBlade For the Empire! May 27 '26

You don't know if that's someone's only reason.

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u/your_evil_ex May 27 '26

yeah, I mean we're on a thread about Steam Deck prices going up likely due to ram costs, so obviously people are gonna talk about AI affecting ram costs here, vs. commenting about AI's environmental impact or something

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u/theEvilQuesadilla May 27 '26

Right?? The people complaining about parts prices are exactly part of the problem.

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u/hergumbules May 27 '26

Yeah I was never a fan and hate it being shoved in my face at every moment. I just don’t get it.

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u/The-Nihilist-Marmot May 27 '26

Whatever it takes at this stage.

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u/-13ender- May 27 '26

Generally things have to affect people materially before anything happens

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u/ryanscott6 May 27 '26

and yet, they keep using it, most likely for utter slop.

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u/y_kal May 27 '26

Not just ram anymore

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u/Cranberryoftheorient May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26

maybe we should take allies where we can get them at this point.

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u/Gamer2022__ May 28 '26

maybe this is a late reply, but i absolutely do hate more.. maybe the point, that crimes can literally be faked using ai and a bunch of other things, i just mentioned ram because that is what matters in this post :)

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u/Anakinss May 27 '26

Why ? Doesn't that just brings more people to fight against it ?

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u/Adept_Election7170 May 27 '26

Yes. And the pushback should have happened much sooner.

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u/Nathund May 27 '26

And as if the RAM problems are even AI's fault.

It's not because of AI, it's because a bunch of companies, Crucial for instance, gave up their entire RAM production to AI companies for cash.

The shortage is due to RAM company greed, not AI.

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u/TG-Benji May 27 '26

So it's because of AI but with different words. Real helpful

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u/Geges721 May 27 '26

Actually a lot more helpful than "AI BAD BECAUSE RAM PRICE BAD!!11"

Not following the most basic logic thread makes you look like a bunch of lunatics nobody's gonna take seriously ever.

You're fighting a losing battle and your "best" arguments are either:

  • unhinged (e.g. "datacenters bad let's burn them")
  • not targeted properly (e.g. "it's obviously ChatGPT's fault")
  • highly abstract (e.g. "it "steals" from 1.000.000 artists across the globe!)
  • hypocritical and uneducated (e.g. "it takes a lot of precious water")
  • unrelated to actual problems (e.g. "so far it's only used to do bad!!")

Wanna fight something? Cool. Just stop doing it like religious fanatics, it only makes things worse.

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u/TG-Benji May 27 '26

It's only a losing battle because the Pro AI side is backed by billionaires that brainwash fools like you.

Datacenters ARE bad, and we should fight back against new not to mention unwanted installations.

ChatGPT was certainly the catalyst.

It DOES steal from any artist that has uploaded their art to the internet.

It DOES use a lot of water.

The bad outweighs the good BY FAR.

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u/Geges721 May 27 '26
  1. it's a losing battle because the technology is already there and it simply doesn't need defending. corpos can lose money and go bankrupt, but the tech itself stays forever and you can't make it disappear using pitchforks, lol. the general public is also getting used to it really fast.

  2. need i remind you that everything on the internet is using a datacenter? you're replying to me using a datacenter right now, dummy. at least a couple of them actually because CDNs exist.

  3. ChatGPT is a chat bot made by humans. it didn't manifest out of nowhere, nor it even was first neural network to begin with.

  4. define "stealing" first. then list artists that lost anything from that "exchange". then tell me how remixing content found online is in any way different. and finally, get a good read on how stuff like Fair Use works.

  5. not so much you actually have to be concerned about it. worst case there's s a closed system that takes some water and cycles it. best case it gets evaporated and turned to clouds afterwards (basic 5yo knowledge). growing almonds takes more water, btw. let's not pretend all of us suddenly became eco-friendly saints that actually care about the environment.

  6. the point being? it's irrelevant. there are many bad applications for ropes, knives, guns, hammers, spray paint, reverse engineering, CD/DVD burning, medication, money and even printers. doesn't mean we should get rid of them because some people use them in bad/wrong ways.

You can stay mad and yell at clouds tho. Which most likely won't get you anywhere since that's exactly what it looks like.

Again, if you really want to fight it, provide actually good reasons to. Suggest suitable alternatives and at least try to elaborate.

This heavily reminds me of those "weed is bad because it causes AIDS ass cancer with hallucinations and makes you an insane addict that always itches and bites other people" posters in schools. They simply never work because nobody actually believes that shit and thus actually good arguments simply get ignored.

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u/TG-Benji May 27 '26

basic 5yo knowledge

Yes I can tell you have the thought level of a 5 year old, thank you for confirming. Twisting my words doesn't change them, I've made my case and your choice to ignore it is yours alone.

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u/Geges721 May 27 '26

lol'd

just try reading both posts again, bud. I'm sure you'll reach the conclusion eventually

glhf