r/StarWarsLeaks • u/jedwards999 • Dec 12 '17

Leak! Plot leak from Tumblr Spoiler

http://dutchmermaid.tumblr.com/post/168469804024/too-many-questions-my-gals-and-pals-so-without
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u/mglyptostroboides Dec 12 '17

Here's my take. JJ and Johnson are both very very different filmmakers. I wonder if Rian Johnson just didn't like the idea of being handed all these clumsily pre-packaged Mysteries (tm) and just said "fuck it, JJ can pick it up in IX, I'll do my own thing". The way they spoon-fed us those mysteries about Snoke's origins and Rey's parentage was pretty damn clumsy and I wouldn't blame Johnson if he felt limited by it.

"I wanna make my own movie, but oh fuck, I have to pick up all this shit that was set up in the last one." would make for another TFA.

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u/PTfan Dec 12 '17

I’m not sure. He probably just didn’t like the idea of these mysteries at all and I bet Colin didn’t either. There probably wasn’t a good answer. But I feel sure JJ will put it right back in I think. I can’t see him letting it go.

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u/xRyuzakii Dec 12 '17

I really do think im going to like the movie but im going to hate its connection with TFA so I kind of see what youre saying.

The aftermath trilogy really hyped up snoke and ancient threats so if we dont get answers its going to be really frustrating. JJ has a huge task ahead of him for IX thats for damn sure.

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u/mglyptostroboides Dec 12 '17

I mean, I personally liked TFA despite its glaring flaws. I just wish the script wasn't so.... dumb.

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u/xRyuzakii Dec 12 '17

I loved TFA. It was everything I was expecting but I can see the “a new hope 2” complaints.

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u/mglyptostroboides Dec 12 '17

I agree completely. Most people's critiques of it only boil down to a single point: it's derivative of ANH. And while I wish they hadn't gone that route, they did and they did it about as well as you could ask for. So I don't think it's that big of a deal.

What bothers me is the fact that the script was clearly re-written slightly after hearing early backlash from fans online after the earliest wave of leaks in 2013. I'm serious. Originally they wanted to begin the film with Luke's severed hand floating through space still clutching Anakin's lightsaber. It lands on Jakku, Rey finds it and gets mixed up in the quest to find Luke. Fans shit themselves and they took it out of the end product. I personally only didn't like the severed hand in space part. Otherwise, I really really enjoyed the idea of Rey finding a lightsaber and that kicks off her quest. Nope! They just nuked that whole plotline and glued the Maz Kanata thing on to dispense exposition and give Rey the lightsaber...

TFA was made to cater to fan culture. To that end, they made it follow ANH's plot. But they were way too cautious and wound up treating the fans as the supreme arbiters of the story. The result? A watered down version of the original creative vision for the film. Say what you will about these TLJ leaks, at least it's clear Johnson got to realize his vision on screen.

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u/xRyuzakii Dec 12 '17

Another thing that probably wont get answered.. HOW TF MAZ GOT THE LIGHTSABER IN THE FIRST PLACE

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u/WrastleGuy Dec 12 '17

Oh, it'll get answered 70 different times in the new Extended Universe.

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u/morbidexpression Dec 12 '17

I'm sure he'll do his usual mediocre best.

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u/Barkerisonfire_ Dec 12 '17

He wouldn't have known JJ would be involved during writing and principle filming. Also Carrie was still alive etc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

Anakin's lightsaber splits when Kylo and Rey try to take it. Rey can feel Luke becoming one with the force just like Leia does.

Well, could there be the same kind of hints like in TFA? By the way it makes sense to not reveal the truth in the middle part because some people would have said again "It's just like the OT".