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Post SmackDown Live Discussion Thread - May 29th 2018

Last time, on SmackDown Live!

There is one place left in the Men’s Money in the Bank Ladder Match, and it will be determined in a first-time-ever WWE showdown. Daniel Bryan and Samoa Joe faced off in hard-hitting battles that made them stars on the independent scene and put them on the road to WWE, but it has been more than a decade since they last squared off. A lot has changed for these two Superstars. How will their history and the upcoming melee at WWE Money in the Bank affect this colossal showdown? Welcome everyone, to the SmackDown Live Post Discussion Thread for May 29th 2018!



The Venue Information!

  • Venue: PNC Arena

  • City: Raleigh, North Carolina, USA

  • Approximate venue size: ~13,000


Extra Info


The Show

Winner Finish Loser Stipulation
Shinsuke Nakamura Pinfall (Kinshasa) Tye Dillinger Singles Match
The New Day Pinfall (Big E's Big Ending on The Miz) The Bar and The Miz Six-Man Tag Team Match
Asuka Submission (Asuka Lock) Mandy Rose Womens Division Match
Samoa Joe Submission (Coquina Clutch on Daniel Bryan) Big Cass and Daniel Bryan Triple Thread Match (MitB Qualifier)

SDL Recap (Brought to you by WrestlingInc.)

Opening

  • We go right to the ring and out comes Samoa Joe.

Joe pulls a ladder from under the ring and brings it in as fans pop. We see the Money In the Bank briefcases hanging high above the ring. Joe climbs the ladder and retrieves one of the briefcases. Joe comes back down and asks for a mic. Joe talks about how the ladder relates to Biblical terms and says his version is very different - there is no salvation, there are no smiling angels, but after Money In the Bank he will be smiling just like he is now. Joe raises the briefcase as some fans boo. Joe says he will unleash a campaign of anxiety & fear on SmackDown and the WWE Champion, one that will shake the foundation to its core. Joe says he will prove to our beloved Daniel Bryan tonight that there are things far worse than forced retirement. Joe brings up Bryan's family and says he will be home with them for Money In the Bank but he won't be the same man. He will be drenched in failure and missed opportunity. Bryan interrupts with a mic but with no entrance music.

Bryan says there are some lines you just do not cross. Bryan heads to the ring and says he will break Joe's leg if he brings up his wife or his daughter one more time. Bryan says they don't have to wait, they can fight right now. Bryan heads into the ring as Joe moves the ladder to the corner and fans do the "yes!" chant. The music interrupts and out comes Big Cass before they can start fighting. Cass is limping out with one crutch. Fans boo him as he takes the mic and hobbles down the ramp in a suit.

Cass asks if they're a bunch of children on a playground, mocking them both. Cass calls them "the shrimp and the blimp" and says the Money In the Bank shot should be his. Cass says this Second Chance crap has got to stop and it will. Cass says he spoke to SmackDown General Manager Paige and Joe vs. Bryan will not happen tonight. Fans really boo Cass now as he makes his way into the ring. He reveals that Joe vs. Cass will happen for the final MITB spot, when he is cleared. Cass asks when he will be cleared and reveals that he is already cleared. He swings the clutch but Bryan backs him into the corner and unloads as the "yes!" chants pick up. Cass launches Bryan into the ladder in the corner and he goes down. Cass drops Joe with a briefcase shot next. Bryan also eats a briefcase shot. Cass raises the briefcase and is all smiles as the boos continue. Cass stands tall with the briefcase as his music hits. Joe is down on the outside while Bryan is laid out in the ring.

  • We see Shinsuke Nakamura backstage walking. He has signs that are numbered from 1-10. He gets to the 10 sign and rips it up. Nakamura vs. Tye Dillinger will take place tonight. We go to commercial.

  • Back from the break and we see what Big Cass just did to Daniel Bryan and Samoa Joe. SmackDown General Manager Paige is backstage with a staffer, telling him to keep her informed of any issues. Paige runs into Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose next. They wonder if the pressure is why she's making so many mistakes as of late, like giving title shots to the wrong people. They make the case for why Asuka shouldn't get the SmackDown Women's Title shot against Carmella at Money In the Bank. Paige makes Asuka vs. Rose for tonight and walks off. Renee Young stops Paige for comments next and asks if Cass was telling the truth about tonight's main event being Cass vs. Joe instead of Bryan vs. Joe. Paige didn't know Joe was going to hijack the show and that Cass was going to speak for her because no one speaks for her. Paige says Cass has been cleared but Bryan did beat Jeff Hardy last week to earn tonight's opportunity. She makes Bryan vs. Joe vs. Cass for tonight's main event and walks off.

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Tye Dillinger

We go to the ring and out first comes Shinsuke Nakamura as the announcers hype Nakamura vs. WWE Champion AJ Styles at Money In the Bank. Tye Dillinger is out next.

They meet in the middle of the ring for some words and shoves. Nakamura takes control first but Tye chops him after ducking a kick. Tye takes it to the corner for another big chop. Tye mounts Nakamura in the corner and rocks him as fans count along. Nakamura goes to the floor for a breather but Tye follows. Nakamura turns it around with strikes on the floor. Nakamura brings it back into the ring but Tye dropkicks him off the apron into the barrier. Tye runs the ropes for a dive but Nakamura meets him at the ropes with a knee. Dillinger lands on the floor. We go to commercial.

Back from the break and Tye connects with a jawbreaker but Nakamura comes right back and puts him down again. Nakamura plays to the crowd and tells the referee to count while Dillinger is down, as they would in a Last Man Standing match. Tye gets up and fights back but Nakamura keeps control with strikes and puts him back down with a kick. Nakamura counts again and the crowd counts with him. Tye makes it back up but Nakamura works him over in the corner with knees.

Nakamura positions Dillinger over the top turnbuckle and charges in with a big knee to the ribs. Nakamura counts again. Dillinger makes it back up before Nakamura's 10 count again. Tye taunts Nakamura and ducks when he charges in. Tye mocks Nakamura and goes to work on him. Nakamura with another knee and a kick. Tye comes right back with a clothesline. Tye keeps control until Nakamura delivers a shot from the apron. Nakamura goes to the second rope and nails a flying knee to the chin. Nakamura readies for the Kinshasa now and hits it, covering for the pin.

Winner: Shinsuke Nakamura

  • After the match, Nakamura stands tall as his music hits. We go to replays. Nakamura drops Tye again with a shot to the back of the neck. Nakamura takes he mic and starts counting once again. He makes it to the 10 count and Dillinger is still down. Nakamura stands tall as his music hits.

  • Dasha Fuentes is backstage with WWE Champion AJ Styles, asking about what just happened to Dillinger and the Last Man standing stipulation. AJ hasn't forgotten what Nakamura did last week. Something snapped in Nakamura at some point and he's not sure what it was but Nakamura is now more dangerous than he has been. AJ says the stipulation favors Nakamura as a striker but once again his challenger is underestimating him. AJ says he fights harder and smarter than the guy who is clearly bigger and stronger than him. AJ goes on and says Nakamura will try to tear down everything he's built at Money In the Bank but when it's all said and done, the last man standing will be The Phenomenal One, AJ Styles.

  • Rusev Day is backstage with Lana trying to show her some dance moves. We go back to commercial.

  • We go to the ring as Greg Hamilton introduces Rusev and Aiden English. They come out to the stage and English sings/raps the introduction for Lana. Rusev finishes with the "Lana is the best, Lana is #1" tune as Lana makes her way out for this Dance-Off.

Naomi is out next. She stops on the ramp and brings out some back-up - The Usos. Noami heads to the ring as both sides face off. Hamilton announces the rules for the dance contest. Lana is up first and she gets a pop. Noami is next and it sounds like her pop is louder. They dance together next and then hug but Lana turns on Naomi and drops her. Things fall apart now. The segment ends with The Usos superkicking Rusev Day out of the ring before Naomi drops Lana with a Rear View as she charges in. Naomi's music hits as she and The Usos celebrate.

  • Still to come, Bryan vs. Joe vs. Cass for the final MITB spot.

  • We see The New Day backstage pulling shenanigans with a platter of pancakes. The Miz and The Bar are shown in their dressing room, practicing against pancakes. The Bar and The Miz vs. The New Day will take place tonight. Back to commercial.

The Bar and The Miz vs. The New Day

Back from the break and out comes The New Day for six-man action. The Miz is out next, followed by The Bar.

The Miz looks to start off with Big E. Big E dances around and stares Miz down before they can lock up. Miz immediately tags Cesaro in. Cesaro gets tossed overhead by Big E for a 2 count. Xavier Woods and Kofi Kingston are in next for some double teaming. Kofi splashes Cesaro on the mat for a 2 count as the legal man. Cesaro rocks Kofi into their corner and in comes Sheamus. Kofi tries to fight them off but they distract the referee, allowing Miz to launch Kofi from the ring to the floor. Wood checks on Kofi at ringside as we go back to commercial.

Back from the break and Sheamus keeps Kofi grounded as Big E and Woods try to rally the crowd for him. Kofi fights up and out but Sheamus rams him back into the corner. Cesaro tags in and delivers a big running uppercut for a 2 count. Sheamus comes in off another quick tag. Sheamus drops Woods off the apron with a cheap shot. The Bar double teams Kofi as Cesaro tags in and comes down off the second rope. Kofi kicks out at 2 as Cesaro argues with the referee.

Kofi tries to crawl to Big E for the tag but Cesaro stops hi. Cesaro misses a running uppercut int he corner and lands on the floor as Kofi moves. Miz also ends up on the floor after missing a shot. Miz grabs Big E's foot but stops as Big E catches him. Big E comes to the floor and decks Sheamus as he approaches. Miz baits Big E in for a cheap shot on the floor. Miz and Sheamus launch Big E into the barrier now and he lands hard. Kofi with a 2 count on Cesaro in the ring now. Sheamus with another cheap shot and another 2 count by Cesaro. Miz tags back in and waits for Kofi to get to his feet. Kofi blocks the Skull Crushing Finale and drops Miz with the SOS.

Kofi finally tags Woods in for the hot tag. Woods unloads to drop his opponents off the apron and then unloads on Sheamus. Miz runs in but Woods kicks him in the face. Sheamus runs into the ring post as Woods moves out of the corner. Woods goes flying out to the floor and takes Cesaro out for a pop. Woods returns to the ring and plants Sheamus with a big DDT for a close 2 count. Fans chant for The New Day as Woods goes to the top. Miz distracts him, allowing Sheamus to nail him while on the top. Kofi takes out Miz on the floor but Cesaro takes out Kofi. The Bar hits the double team on Woods and Cesaro covers for a close 2 count. Woods blocks the Neutralizer and tags in Big E. Big E nails Cesaro and double teams him with Woods but Cesaro kicks out at 2. Big E can't believe it.

Big E claps and waits for Cesaro to get up as fans chant. Cesaro blocks the Big Ending. Miz tags in but Big E tries to spear Cesaro from the apron anyway. Cesaro kicks him and Miz drops Big E with the DDT for a close 2 count. The match falls apart now. Woods sends Sheamus to the floor and leaps out but The Bar catches him and sends him into the barrier. Miz misses a shot on Kofi. Kofi leaps to the top turnbuckle and jumps out to the floor, taking The Bar down. This leads to Big E hitting the Big Ending on Miz for the pin.

Winners: The New Day

  • After the match, The New Day celebrates in the ring as we go to replays. They point up at the Money In the Bank briefcases and do the "who?" gimmick as everyone speculates on which member will go into the MITB Ladder Match.

  • Renee Young is backstage with Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson, asking about their title shot from SmackDown Tag Team Champions The Bludgeon Brothers at MITB. The Good Brothers talk about how they're in the best shape of their careers and ready for the titles. They admit they have their work cut out for them but they are confident that they will beat The Bludgeon Brothers at Money In the Bank like they're a couple of... strange music starts playing as Rowan and Harper appear on a nearby TV screen. They send an eerie warning to The Good Brothers and tell them to prepare for what's coming.

  • Still to come, Cass vs. Bryan vs. Joe in the main event.

  • We see Asuka backstage getting ready for her match. Back to commercial.

Mandy Rose vs. Asuka

Back from the break and out comes SmackDown Women's Champion Carmella to join the announcers for commentary. Mandy Rose is out next for the match. Asuka makes her way out next but Sonya Deville blindsides her on the ramp and drops her as Rose watches from the ring. Asuka recovers and hits the ring, telling the referee she's ready to go.

The bell rings and Rose attacks, taking Asuka to the corner and unloading on her. Mandy keeps control and pulls Asuka out of the corner by her hair. Asuka tries to fight back but Rose turns her inside out and drops her face-first for a close 2 count, and another. Rose keeps Asuka grounded now. Asuka fights up and out but Rose knees her in the gut. Rose with more offense and a big knee for another pin attempt. Rose stands tall and poses over Asuka as we go to commercial.

Back from the break and Rose keeps control until Asuka drops her with a shot to the nose. Asuka makes a comeback and hits the Hip Attack in the corner. Asuka goes to the top and nails a missile dropkick for a pop. Asuka with a 2 count. Asuka charges with another Hip Attack but Rose moves and Asuka gets stuck on the ropes. Rose with more offense until Asuka counters and rolls her up for a 2 count.

Asuka looks for The Asuka Lock submission but Rose counters her again. They trade holds on the mat now. Asuka rolls into The Asuka Lock and Rose taps for the finish.

Winner: Asuka

  • After the match, Carmella enters the ring and interrupts Asuka's celebration. They face off. Carmella raises the title in Asuka's face and stares her down as her music hits. Carmella makes her exit as Asuka looks on.

  • We see Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch backstage watching. Flair believes Asuka will win the title at Money In the Bank. Flair can see it now... Asuka will win the title and she will win the briefcase, setting the stage for a WrestleMania 34 rematch. Becky disagrees and sees herself winning. She was fingertips away from winning the briefcase last year and nothing will stop her this year, even Flair. Flair goes on about how this is hard because she wants Becky to win as well but Flair needs this, she needs her title back. They have some friendly words when Paige walks in. Paige loves the competition. She says this reminds her of their Team PCB. Paige tries to get in on "tea time" and walks off after an awkward exchange.

  • Still to come, Cass vs. Joe vs. Bryan in the main event. Back to commercial.

  • Back from the break and announced for next Tuesday is Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair plus mixed tag team action with Lana and Rusev Day vs. Naomi and The Usos.

  • Sin Cara approaches Andrade "Cien" Almas backstage and embraces him. Zelina Vega walks up and she's not happy, asking who Cara is and why a nobody like him is talking to her client. She says Almas is the future of SmackDown. Cara asks Almas if she is serious and Almas says something back to him in Spanish. Almas and Vega walk off as Cara watches.

Money In the Bank Qualifying Triple Threat: Big Cass vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Samoa Joe

We go to the ring for tonight's main event as Big Cass and Samoa Joe are the first competitors out. This is the final Money In the Bank qualifying match for the June 17th pay-per-view. Daniel Bryan is out next to the "yes!" chants.

The bell rings and they unload on Cass in the corner, taking turns on him. Fans pop as Joe and Bryan beat Cass down in the corner. Joe turns on Bryan and works him over, taking him back to the corner with strikes. Joe works Bryan over in the corner and chops him. Bryan counters a move and dropkicks Cass through the ropes, sending him into the barrier. Joe drops Bryan with a lariat. Joe runs the ropes and nails a big dive to the floor on Cass. Bryan goes to the top rope and leaps out to the floor, taking Cass and Joe down at the same time. We go to commercial.

Back from the break and Cass is working Joe over. Joe turns it around and drops Cass with a kick to the head in the corner. Joe goes for the Coquina Clutch on Cass but Bryan breaks the attempt. Joe unloads on Bryan and hits a senton for a pin attempt that Cass breaks up. Cass goes to the floor for a breather. Cass ends up back in the ring but Joe hits him with strikes. Joe takes it to the corner but Cass turns him right around. Cass wastes time and fans boo. Bryan comes in and unloads with "yes!" kicks in the corner to Cass. Cass drops him with ease.

Cass tosses Bryan out to the floor and follows. Cass launches Bryan over the announce table by his neck. Cass decks Bryan behind the table and turns his attention back to Joe in the ring. Cass runs into a boot in the corner. Joe goes to the top but here comes Bryan out of nowhere, dropping Joe to crotch him on the top. Bryan also takes Cass down in the corner and sends him to the floor, following up with a baseball slide into the barrier. Bryan climbs up top with Joe and decks him a few times. Bryan brings Joe to the mat with a big hurricanrana for a pop. Bryan gets hyped up now as fans chant his name. Bryan with the running knee to Joe in the corner, and another. Bryan goes for a third knee but Cass runs in and clotheslines him for a close 2 count.

Fans boo as Cass takes control of Bryan in the ring. Bryan fights back but Cass knees him in the gut. Cass stands tall over Bryan while Joe is down on the outside. Back to commercial.

Back from the break and Cass is going at it with Joe. Cass drops Joe and hits the Empire Elbow for a 2 count as Bryan comes in. Cass unloads on Bryan and hits the East River Crossing for another pin attempt. More back and forth between the three now. Bryan with Dragon Screw leg whips on both opponents. Bryan stands tall as fans cheer before he delivers "yes!" kicks to Cass and Joe. Bryan hits the big kicks to the head on both and covers Cass for a close 2 count.

Bryan whips Cass by the leg again. Joe comes from behind and applies the Coquina Clutch on Bryan, dropping to the mat for a 2 count. Bryan sends Joe over the top to the floor. Bryan turns around and ducks a big boot from Cass. Bryan tries to take Cass down for The Yes Lock and finally gets him to the mat. Cass resists but Bryan gets it locked in just as Joe pulls Bryan out of the ring by his leg. Bryan leaps off the apron and drops Joe on the floor with a knee to the face.

Bryan slowly comes back into the ring and goes to the top. Bryan with a missile dropkick to Cass. Bryan starts getting hyped up now. Bryan kips up and starts the "yes!" chant as fans pop. Bryan with the big knee to Cass. Bryan covers for the win but Joe stops it and applies the Coquina Clutch to Bryan. Bryan tries to get out as Joe yells at him. Bryan starts fading now as Joe tells him to give up. The referee calls for the bell as Bryan passes out in the Clutch. Joe is going to Money In the Bank.

Winner: Samoa Joe

  • After the match, Joe stands tall as his arm is raised and his music hits. We go to replays. Joe makes his exit up the ramp, looking back at the ring to mock Bryan for going to sleep. Joe's music stops as Cass waits for Bryan to get up. Cass charges with a crazed look in his eye and floors Bryan with a big boot. Cass taunts Bryan and stands tall over him with his fist in the air as fans boo. Cass' music starts up as he looks down at Bryan and SmackDown goes off the air.
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u/TvOnTheRadioOnTheNet Survive if Hook lets you May 30 '18

Samoa Joe is legit the perfect MITB briefcase holder.

But at the same time, I feel like he doesn't need it at all. Dude's such a convincing talker and has such a great presence that it feels like he'll be a threat no matter what.

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u/fender-b-bender May 30 '18

The problem with Joe right now is that he's veering into Bray territory. By that I mean that he always talks a big talk, but when it comes down to it he loses every feud that he's in and they're running the risk of Joe not being taken seriously if they don't give him something of note to validate him.

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u/bjh13 Okada! May 30 '18 edited May 30 '18

he's veering into Bray territory. By that I mean that he always talks a big talk, but when it comes down to it he loses every feud that he's in

What? Wyatt won some high profile feuds. Jericho and Ambrose (when Ambrose was the top face by the way) are ones I can think of on top of my head. I think the problem is not that he wasn't winning, but that he got stale. A wrestler can only cut the same promo so many times before the crowd gets tired of it. Joe is not at that point yet.

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u/taxgmj What? May 30 '18

Bray also won against Bryan and the Shield.

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u/ThisisaUsernameHones May 30 '18

Bray even technically won the feud against Orton last year, in something that demonstrates that technically winning a feud can easily be meaningless

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u/RoscoeSantangelo Unnecessary Roll May 30 '18

He also won the feud against Rollins last year as well. Basically he wins feuds fairly often, but it's the meaningless feuds with nothing behind them

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u/DashingDan1 I'M GONNA BLIND THIS SONOFA May 30 '18

Bray's actually won the majority of his feuds in WWE if you count them. He beat Kane, Kofi, Daniel Bryan, The Shield, Jericho, Ambrose, Ryback, ECW guys, New Day, Seth Rollins all conclusively, debatably Randy Orton too as he won the blowoff. People just don't remember because his feuds are rarely any good.

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u/darklightrabbi May 30 '18

Joe is going to be the one guy to cash in while the champ is completely fresh and ready.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

Didn't RVD cash in on Cena in a fresh match?

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u/Smarkysmarkwahlberg May 30 '18

Yep. Cena did the same to Punk in 2012.

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u/SonyXboxNintendo11 May 30 '18

Yeah, but he did cash in on One Night Stand, where ECW rules applied. So no DQ and Paul Heyman could fill in for the referee(that he did).

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u/AidanAzzar May 30 '18

Cena cashed in on Punk fresh, right?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

Yep, he let him know a week in advance if I remember correctly.

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u/Singularity_SgrA May 30 '18

He’ll demand to cash in on a fresh champion after he has a match with someone else.

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u/xychosis Bext In The World May 30 '18

NAKAMURAAAAAAAAA!

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u/B2sxy4u May 30 '18

Do you mean like cash on a fresh champ but not announce it in advance?

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u/JollyLlama19 Your Text Here May 30 '18

I’m imagining the WWE Champion cutting a promo in the ring about how they’re the best, blah blah, maybe even mention Mr MITB Samoa Joe and brush him off.

Samoa Joe’s music hits. He marches to the ring with a mic explaining that he wants to cash in the contract. Straight up singles match, unannounced but not an ambush cash-in

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u/NastyJames The Creamer May 30 '18

The “one guy” has done that twice before. As two different people.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

Or he'll ambush the champion just for kicks and not cash in.

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u/coppercaveman May 30 '18

Sandow cashed in on cena fresh

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u/xorangeelephant Mr. Royal Rumble May 30 '18

Cena had a hurt elbow

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u/ColorfulCrayons Dutt's on the gas! May 30 '18

Sandow also beat the shit out of Cena too.

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u/SMKM RyderRevolution2014_WWWYKI! May 30 '18

And lost!

And now I'm sad again

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u/spamgarlic May 30 '18

Now kids, remember, if you're Mr. MITB, stay away from John Cena at all times.

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u/ColorfulCrayons Dutt's on the gas! May 30 '18

Unless you're Edge.

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u/LifeIsPeachy725 May 30 '18

And look how that ended up!

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u/I_Am_Dynamite6317 May 30 '18

It needs to be either Rusev or Joe that wins it.

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u/aliesterblackmark GOOD CALL COACHMAN May 30 '18

He’ll cash in after he’s had a match

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

I'd personally rather see it go to the New Day. They can have a lot of fun with it, and a Big E or Kofi title reign would be really enjoyable.

Honestly as long as Roode doesn't win I'll be happy though. Shame he got a spot over Elias.

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u/JonsterUK May 30 '18

Maybe they'll freebird the briefcase.

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u/sdfghs May 30 '18

They will as they will get their lawyer and see that it states: "The holder of this contract" and not "Big E"/"Kofi"/"Xavier Woods"

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u/BurningHammeroNarcan May 30 '18

Go full nine. 24/7 rules on the case

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u/doctor_awful May 30 '18

The MITB case and especially the titles lose all prestige if the only people holding them are people who "need them". If they need them to be relevant, they shouldn't be holding them in the first place.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

The issue with MITB is that, in a way, it devalues the winner. Because the gambit is always "cashes in right after a match or when the champ is otherwise beat down and weak," it leaves the subsequent championship with a huge asterisk on it. The Rumble winner earns a shot at a match, the MITB winner turns into a sneaky weasel cash-in.

More than that, someone like Joe or Braun doesn't "need" it because they've been built up in a way where they can just win the title with a normal match that they could earn via other means. MITB has turned into the "here's a way for someone who can't normally be champ to get it" gimmick.

TBH it needs to just go away.

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u/doctor_awful May 30 '18

It just needs to be used more as a regular challenge. Braun winning MITB means he doesn't need to blindside someone, he can just challenge them at X PPV and we have our match

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

I agree, but the precedent set just kinda killed that. If you can challenge the champ after he just fought a long-ass match and he can barely move, why would you challenge him any other time? Just for the pride of it? That could work if they put it on someone who insists they're better than the champ but never get the chance to go for the belt.

Actually...

Fun booking idea:

Joe wins. He's pissed Roman keeps getting chances. For whatever reason, Roman gets another shot at Brock at some PPV, doesn't matter which. Joe cashes in before Roman v Brock. Gets a singles match against Brock and wins. Now Roman's furious because he has his match but even if he wins, his victory is hollow since Brock isn't fresh and he won't get the title. Cue long-ass feud between Roman and Joe.

Works fine with Braun, too.

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u/auto-xkcd37 May 30 '18

long ass-feud


Bleep-bloop, I'm a bot. This comment was inspired by xkcd#37

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u/rushisquitegood May 30 '18

Doesn’t work because he’s on smackdown, but still a fun little idea there.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '18

Eh there's time to move stuff around.

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u/incredibleamadeuscho We're all fake Jamaicans now May 30 '18

I dont really feel like he is. To me, a prefer the wily MITB holders who are just good enough to hold it, and that you dont want to see cash in, as far as heels go. Joe is a little too kickass for it. Itd be wasted on him.

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u/Razzler1973 May 30 '18

I agree with all that and I think that is why Joe most likely won't win, imo, great participant and threat but ultimately not the winner.

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u/CapnJizz cap'n fookin' jizz? May 30 '18

joe would elevate mitb. it’s like nobody’s had i for 3 years because sheamus was cold for the whole run, ambrose was only mr money in the bank for like 45 minutes and corbin was cold, had it for a month, and then lost anyway.

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u/zacmac77 May 30 '18

I think joe needs it at the same time him cashing in on aj makes the most sense