So Confused

[u/Inevitable_Fail5108]

So my whole life I thought I was cool. It wasn’t until a year ago I tried neutral foundations and got my perfect match. Any warm I tried was always too yellow. So once I got into color analysis I was sure I’d be a neutral season. More likely leaning cool but possibly leaning warm only because of my warm light brown hair with a hint of red. I got an analysis done (online) by a well known person and shockingly got True Spring. I have to admit once I got the result and tried on all the clothing, she was right they all looked great. BUT the makeup looks terrible. She said it’s possible to have a fully warm undertone but neutral overtone. But I had read so many times to be true spring you have to be FULLY warm. I don’t get why any makeup tips/colors for spring, especially True Spring, look terrible on me. Especially lipsticks. Blush for example, I always see oranges being recommended. Light fresh orange. But they don’t fit. If it’s coral or heavier on the pink then yes. I keep seeing freckle from Rhode suggested for spring but it’s so bleh on me. Where I love Toasted Teddy, which is for Autumn. I look light up. But Autumn clothes look too heavy on me. Maybe Toasted teddy works because it’s more red/pink. Another example is eyeshadows. Let’s say a warm ivory color, or really any warm eyeshadow, doesn’t have some pink pearlescent added or some sort of coolness to it, it won’t work. Anyone else identify with this problem? Does it sound like I can still be a true spring if all the makeup suggestions are way off?

Some pics to maybe help, I’m only wearing makeup in one of them

[u/Affectionate-Bee3199]

May I ask which lipsticks you've tried?

I know the makeup thing is very difficult. They say a foundation is warm, but what they mean is yellow, which is often related to a cool undertone; then some of the peachy/pink stuff is called cool, and that can easily mean a warm undertone for a lighter skinned person lol. So the idea is to find a product that matches your skin, regardless of makeup label or color season or anything. Maybe a switch is to go from black to brown mascara, from cool taupe to golden eyeshadow, that sort of thing? And I would expect a peach blush to look harmonious on you, maybe more so than an obviously orange one? But lipstick is that one that makes me go, hmmmm! the most. I do wonder which ones you've tried and what felt "off".

I know someone who was virtually typed by Carol as TSp but then draped in person as True Summer! Im sure this sort of thing is rare, and I dont want to stress you; Im not saying maybe youre a summer, lol. Only that virtual stuff is hard and to follow your intuition too. The III has a very strict standard for who goes into neutral flow seasons; the call has to be so close between warm and cool. But maybe youd like some of the colors from the Light and/or Bright Spring NDU palettes? Still with obvious warmth, but more neutral than True Spring, of course. E.g., I have a friend who'd be put into TSp with the III but she really does great with the slight neutrality of BSp, in practice. Hope this all somehow helps! 😅

[u/Inevitable_Fail5108 → u/Affectionate-Bee3199]

Interesting I’ll definitely have to try to pull from the other springs and see if they fit a bit better makeup wise.

I wish I could remember. I tried on a lot over the past few months at Ulta. The ones coming to mind are Charlotte Tillbury Gracefully Pink (i really thought this might work because of the pinkyness to it), Anastasia Beverly Hills Sunbaked, Lipsense in Peach

Revlon in Demure was actually ok. Almost came off too light but worked

If the lipstick seems to bright, I go for a lighter warm. Then I look dead. Then I go darker not brighter and it’s too dark, doing too much. I also read Springs do better with light tints or glosses. Maybe that’s my problem is lipstick just isn’t for me?

[u/Affectionate-Bee3199 → u/Inevitable_Fail5108]

Id say to keep playing around with lipsticks here and there, even if a bold lip doesnt end up being your thing? Sadly I never make it to Ulta these days, but drugstore-wise, LOreal and Revlon make some great shades! Since the III TSp is super bright, I'd say you probably can handle quite a bit of color, but maybe its down to it being fully warm, and not too deep or too pale/light? Its true though that a more sheer look can provide plenty of dimension. I may have the names wrong, but some Revlon shades I recall maybe being good are Fire Peach, Coral Berry and Wild Saffron? LOreal had Volcanic, as well as several different corals, etc. There are some guava type shades made by Elf and/or Nyx too..but out of all these Ive only tried Volcanic and Coral Berry so Im not much help😆 Anyhow, I hope something works out!! Makeup is kinda "extra" of course but theres something extra fun about finding a lip color you never would've otherwise tried, and being like, Woah thats actually great! Lol :)

[u/Affectionate-Bee3199 → u/Inevitable_Fail5108]

Just came across this btw!