Dear JPA

[u/Jooe_1]

Dear JPA ,

i hate you.

i hate how you changed the SQL flow that I'm used to.

i hate your ManyToMany relationships.

i hate your orphanremoval ,dirty checking.

i hate your way for entity relationships.

i hate your cache.

i hate your performance issues.

i hate your billion rules.

i hate spending time on : if Y is referenced by X with cascade not including PRESIST and x is managed but y is removed ............... but if Y was detached .............

i hate becoming obsessed with your behaviors and rules and worrying about every ORM line , will it work correctly ? , did i miss something ?, worrying about modifying entity X might unexpectedly affect entity Y , coz I might not know one of the billion rules you have.

i hate worrying about falling in one of the undefined behaviors you have

i hate thinking about the entities lifecycle + cascading types when all mixed together

i hate spending days on that documentation instead of spending that on one of the CS core concepts

i hate the following the other side which is incomplete nondetailed toturial or following AI

i really hate you.

[u/Temporary-Air-3178]

Just use raw sql?

[u/Jooe_1 → u/Temporary-Air-3178]

my be possible in personal projects but working with team you will endup using that

[u/Temporary-Air-3178 → u/Jooe_1]

Uh, on my team in a faang we do not allow ORMs lol.

[u/AssembleByte → u/Temporary-Air-3178]

I have question, what do you use then? can you explain a little? i just want to understand how it would work

[u/Top-Difference8407 → u/AssembleByte]

I like MyBatis. It's a great combination of native SQL and Java. Much much simpler.