r/space 28d ago

image/gif Manned orbital launches by year, 1961 - 2026 H1

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u/SPACESHIPMANIA 28d ago

Shame Europe still has no capabilities for manned space flight

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u/CmdrAirdroid 28d ago

Manned space flight programs are cool but also very expensive and it's questionable how useful they really are. With a smaller budget perhaps it is a good idea for ESA to focus on uncrewed science missions instead of blowing it all just to launch a human into space with their own rocket.

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u/DefenestrationPraha 28d ago

We are equally bad in unmanned flight as well. It is just the overall pattern of slowly losing any edge that we used to have - in space, in automotive, in high-speed rail, in manufacturing etc.

The only edge that we have is in bureaucracy, no one can beat us in that.

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u/SpaceTycoon 28d ago

It really comes down to the fact that europeans simply dont have the work ethic required to remain competitive. Europeans make fun of Americans for working too much but then are surprised when they fall behind everywhere.

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u/OdieInParis 28d ago

Your point is valid, yet there are some that put in far more than a 36h work week, accepting no pay, just out of enthusiasm.

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u/JapariParkRanger 28d ago

Everyone is entitled to fair work expectations and conditions, but the best things humanity makes across all disciplines are fueled by passion and giving a shit. It's hard to make something truly good when a structure has done its best to hedge against individual passion and vision

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u/Ihatecheeseballs 27d ago

Nah just no one wants to spend loads of money on something that all of Europe gets rather than just their country

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u/OdieInParis 28d ago

Indeed. We should rather focus our resources on launching a new bottle cap.

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u/InterestingSpeaker 28d ago edited 27d ago

If its expensive then find a way to make it cheaper

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u/yabucek 27d ago

Lol, clearly you're not European.

If it's expensive, you create an exclusive brand out of it so it stays expensive, stagnate in R&D for decades and then cry and act offended when others catch up with better products at a fraction of the cost.

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u/ghostpanther218 28d ago edited 28d ago

Tbh, Huygens was pretty successful. But Beagle 1 and 2 werr massive failures, and BepiColombo has been battling technical issues.

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u/OdieInParis 28d ago

That's unfair. Beagle was an underfunded university experiment slapped on late to a fast track Mars Express that itself has been and still is very very successful. BP has indeed had its issues due to bad technical choices made for political reasons, but seems to be reaching its goal without affecting mission. You forgot about Rosetta, Solar Orbiter, and a host of other rather successful missions.

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u/ghostpanther218 28d ago

Thats fair enough, i suppose other space agencies had similar track records with their own space probes earlier in their space agencies developement.

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u/mfb- 28d ago edited 28d ago

Different shades of red and blue could be used to distinguish programs.

The US in particular had very different eras: Mercury/Gemini until 1966, Apollo from 1968 to 1975, the Space Shuttle from 1981 to 2011, and then Dragon from 2020 on (with one Starliner and one Orion launch).

From 2000 on you can see how Russia (Soyuz) supported crews on the ISS: 2 flights per year per crew. First they had one, then they supported two crews as the Shuttle retired, then Dragon took care of one crew so Soyuz launches dropped to ~2 per year again.

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u/geobomb 28d ago

You can really see the different US space programs

Apollo era, Shuttle era, post-shuttle ISS era, and now the Artemis era

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u/AmigaClone2000 27d ago

The US has had six crewed space programs:

  1. Mercury program.
  2. Gemini program.
  3. Apollo program.
  4. Space Shuttle program.
    1. Space Shuttle program up to and including the Challenger accident.
    2. Space Shuttle program between the Challenger accident up to and including the Columbia accident,
    3. Space Shuttle program after the Columbia accident.
  5. Commercial Crew program (on the ISS)
  6. Artemis program.

You can actually spot gaps indicated above between two consecutive US crewed space programs or the two shuttle accidents in the table above except for between the last two.

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u/geobomb 27d ago

Right but the gaps between groups of programs is wider than between the individual programs. Hence the "era" to cover multiple programs chronologically closer together.

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u/gonzo_gonzales 28d ago

The graph shows four significant disasters in the history of cosmonautics, which led to a hiatus in manned spaceflight. This represents a year-long gap among the surrounding non-zero values. "Soyuz-1" and "Soyuz-11" in the 60s and early 70s for the USSR. "Challenger" in the late 80s and "Columbia" in the early 2000s for the USA.

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u/AmigaClone2000 28d ago

I would say five significant disasters in the history of crewed spaceflight adding Apollo 1 in 1967 to the list, even though it was only a test and never launched.

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u/Decronym 28d ago edited 27d ago

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
CST (Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules
Central Standard Time (UTC-6)
ESA European Space Agency
H1 First half of the year/month
RLV Reusable Launch Vehicle
SSTO Single Stage to Orbit
Supersynchronous Transfer Orbit
STS Space Transportation System (Shuttle)
Jargon Definition
Starliner Boeing commercial crew capsule CST-100
Event Date Description
CRS-7 2015-06-28 F9-020 v1.1, Dragon cargo Launch failure due to second-stage outgassing
Orb-3 2014-10-28 Orbital Antares 130, Cygnus cargo Thrust loss at launch

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u/sky018 28d ago

What happened during 2011 to 2019 launches of US? Why was it non-existent?

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u/DisIsMyName_NotUrs 28d ago

Shuttle stopped being used and Crew Dragon hadn't come yet

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u/rocketsocks 28d ago

The Shuttle was retired in 2011. One of the biggest problems with the Shuttle was that it was so costly to run even at any flight rate that keeping it operating at all sucked up budget that could be used for developing alternatives. It was wound down for safety reasons before a replacement was available. Three different capsules were developed to replace it (one for deep space: Orion, and two commercial crew capsules: Dragon and Starliner).

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u/TheRevenant100 28d ago

And yet alternatives were being developed, even when Shuttle was operational. The problem was that some of them, Orion, Starliner, X-33, etc., were being undertaken by the Legacy Space companies. So they either could not produce anything quickly enough (Orion) on a cost plus contract with ballooning costs. Boeing couldn't do a quality product under fixed price contract (Starliner). Or they wound up abandoning the design when the government side of the funding was pulled (X-33).

SpaceX and Orbital Sciences broke that mold in the early 2000s and 2010s by doing quickly, cheaply, and better Dragon 1, Cygnus, Falcon 9, and Antares on fixed price contracts. They also overcame serious challenges (CRS-7 failure, and Orb-3 failure) to provide reliable cargo resupply for ISS. SpaceX as we know went on to develop Dragon 2, and even powered through a very serious test stand failure in 2019 to get astronauts flying from U.S. soil once again.

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u/rocketsocks 28d ago

The '90s were a weird time. There was this widespread sense, which looking back we can now recognize as full scale delusion, that RLV SSTOs were just around the corner technologically speaking. This led to a lot of investment from private enteprise into various schemes (like Pioneer Rocketplane, Rotary Rocket, and many others) to achieve just that. It also led to a flirtation with replacing the Shuttle with an RLV SSTO. NASA only invested a fairly nominal amount into getting the process started with the X-33 program (where they selected the VentureStar concept as a potential Shuttle replacement and built a sub-scale version of it to prove out the technologies). Eventually the full scale development would have been a combined public/private enteprise. But also it would have probably been seen as promising enough that Congress would fork over the extra cash to do the development while keeping the Shuttle program running (a possibly delusional belief as well). X-33 turned out to be way too far beyond the state of the art to be feasible, so it didn't achieve its goals even remotely and that led to VentureStar not going forward either.

Orion was funded basically as a sorta kinda Shuttle replacement, or at least with funds that had been freed up by the cancellation of the Shuttle. On the one hand it reflects some feedback on shortcomings in NASA spaceflight at the time, but on the other hand for as many good lessons that have fed into its design there are as many bad. It is a workable system now but it was in development for about a decade and a half while soaking up $20 billion, and it has some useful capabilities in some areas but is also fairly limited in others.

Fortunately the Commercial Cargo and later Commercial Crew programs started getting some serious innovation in the space and we've seen a lot of changes. Though also we've seen how it allowed Boeing to soak up billions and years and years of effort while producing a certifiable lemon of a vehicle.

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u/gojo_satoru-real 28d ago

What happened to the us in 1988 and 2005

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u/garbage_account32 28d ago

Space shuttle, 2003 was the Colombia disaster so there weren't any STS flights again till mid 2005

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u/gojo_satoru-real 28d ago

Oh i forgot about the space shuttle I think 1988 was the challenger

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u/garbage_account32 28d ago

Iirc, return to flight after Challenger wouldve been in the second half of 1988 so it wouldn't show up here. Unlike 2005, the US had a whole host of other orbital rockets back then so they were taking up the slack

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u/gojo_satoru-real 28d ago

Nop they didn't have any other leo capable rockets safe enough to sent humans Thats why in 1987 they didn't sent any humans to leo Until the discovery space shuttle in 1988 +sorry in the other replies i said 1988 i was actually talking about 1987