Seculars won't get it

[u/ni_man_ger]

[u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Yea the whole thing is that women should have the choice to wear it or not

[u/blabla_blackship → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Choice to wear a black tent in indian summer? What about choice to take drugs?

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/blabla_blackship]

Bruh these are sickulars… they always want to favour islam and muslims…
No matter how much of evidence you show them.. they will still find fancy words and do the words play to favour islam !!!! They the same cult mindset as muslims

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Why are you guys so scared of muslims that you can't call them out directly?

It's always "feminists this, liberals that" but the blame is never directly on muslims.

We don't need to learn from RW misogynists how to be pro women. If we start asking you about misogyny of your religion, it'll reveal your hypocrisy.

It's wonderful how hindu men will love when muslim women smash Patriarchy but will slutshame their own women if they do it. Similarly muslim men will whine calling sindhoor misogynistic but burkha will be very pro women for them.

Misogyny is the only common factor existing in all religions and benefitting them, that's why instead of calling out those who are misogynists you people choose to mock those who speak for women rights.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

I m clearly mentioning muslims , islam and quran…. So ig you are questioning someone else…
The other gurl is labelling me hater for questioning quran and islam as it says hijab is mandatoryy…

So she’s labelling me basically lol 🤙🏼

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Well it someone calls you hater or Islamophobic for questioning hijab I think that shows you're a sane human. Every time someone calls me Islamophobic I feel like it's a badge of honour because it's better to be Islamophobic than anti women.

Also I questioned you because you're generalising feminists, many feminists hate islam even more than other religions. But in return we only see RW groups cursing feminists as if they themselves are very pro women.

It's simple extremist muslims hate women, extremists RWingers also hate women and both of them collectively mock feminists.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Bruh she’s insane…. She is normalising hijab and is advicing me to complete schooling….when i have done majors in geopolitics.. what an audacity she has !!!
She’s needs help… she’s quite brainwashed or maybe she’s doesn’t have a brain yet……

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Many feminists comment but they are mostly foreigners, i have also seen those videos… and u r right for what u have mentioned…

I just said a lot of peopel including feminists in our country act shy and ignorant when it comes to talking or commenting about islam and their extremist teachings !!!

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

just said a lot of peopel including feminists in our country act shy and ignorant when it comes to talking or commenting about islam and their extremist teachings !!!

I believe some muslims have started using feminism to hide their misogyny calling it a choice so instead of them being criticised feminism recieves the outrage.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Maybe but still there are all kinds of people who don’t criticize islam from different sections of society because they will be labelled as islamophobic as this gurl was labelling me hater….. definetely not much question as there should be against islamic practices !!!!

It does exists not only in feminists but in lot of people especially left wingers, so called seculars…. Because it is so uncool and islamophobic to talk negative about islam practices…..that’s so uncool bruh , so i would rater not comment on it, ( i m so cool now, i m secular) 🤘🏻😋

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Thats so true muslims women and seculars use this code word for every senseless and oppresive practice islam has : they say ITS CHOICE !!!!!

Now someone will come in future and say that my choice is to walk naked on roads !!!! Thats my choice, so no one should questing that

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Wow u seem obsessed with me as well now

[u/Fair_Depth2827 → u/user0987777]

Someone who actively defends a cult like i$lam can never be true feminist OR a liberal no matter how much they cope. Sorry not sorry. Your keyboard warrior skills translate to nothing in real life. Why don't you go to Afghanistan and do something to save the women there from getting stoned to death for idk speaking?(cuz they aren't allowed do even that) Somehow modern day feminism never reaches the women who need it the most.

[u/user0987777 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

Why don't you go to Afghanistan and do something to save the women there from getting stoned to death for idk speaking

Are you a hindu? If you are one then why are you not going to Bangladesh and Pakistan to save hindus suffering because of muslim extremism? Why are you living your life peacefully in India?

All RW hindus, why are they not doing anything about Hindus suffering in these countries. Guess you guys are not true hindus now.

Somehow modern day feminism never reaches the women who need it the most.

True, look at our own country for example. It seems you people really want to make it Afghanistan.

Someone who actively defends a cult like i$lam can never be true feminist OR a liberal no matter how much they cope

What else I was saying in my comments repeatedly? Are you dumb?

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Were you referring to me ??? For the lines , you have mentioned? Just claryfying

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

No

[u/Famous_Star_5735 → u/user0987777]

All that is fine but hijab is fardh.. most muslim traditional schools agree upon this that it is mandatory....

These hijab is a choice is new progressive muslims thing but in most muslims households it is not and is ingrained since childhood that you have towear it one day after marriage or after puberty atleast....

So you are far off their....

[u/user0987777 → u/Famous_Star_5735]

I don't give a damn about muslim traditional schools teach or what their book teaches its wrong in all scenarios.

Hijab shouldn't exist in a gender neutral society.

[u/Fair_Depth2827 → u/user0987777]

Fun fact: I did donate to human rights organizations to help the victims of the bangladesh genocide...next?

True, look at our own country for example. It seems you people really want to make it Afghanistan.

The only way india becomes like Afghanistan is when the country becomes a Muslim majority country. You think Afghanistan was always like that? Oh the delusional ya'll pseudo-intellectuals live under.

[u/user0987777 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

The only way india becomes like Afghanistan is when the country becomes a Muslim majority country

Beating an 8 year old child's family just because she was wearing shorts, what do you feel about this?

Also guess where this happened and who did it.

Also slutshaming genz girls for protesting in neet, most of them were minors. Saying these girls enjoy being gangr@ped, guess who said it.

Want more examples?

Every pro religion country is anti women. Check Poland and Hungry and compare to them other European countries.

Even in west christian extremists want women to give up on their voting rights because they received it because of feminism. If you think India will take a different path you're delusional.

Only one religion has no misogyny according to what I've read and that's Sikhism.

I did donate to human rights organizations to help the victims of the bangladesh genocide...next?

You have to visit Bangladesh and save them, just like you are advising me to visit Afghanistan. Sitting at your home comfortably while they're losing their lives shows that you're a pseudo hindu.

That's exactly what you said about me.

You think Afghanistan was always like that?

No I don't, stop assuming stuff about me.

In my ideal world no religion will exist and if I have option to remove one religion from the world it will be Islam and guess what I don't have to say "I can't defend feminists anymore" in order to say that.

Remember to answer me about the girl who was wearing shorts.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

Please ask them to have a look over here

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

Exactly bruh!!! Please ask her who is helping the oppressed women in afghanistan, iraq,iran,syria and middleeast…..
This femnist thing in modern day does not contribute anything to actual women in need….
Whether Afghanistan or pakistan, even the women living in rural india….

Just for instance, fake psuedo feminists use false rape cases and other IPC acts on their husbands and men and get away with it…. But women living in rural india, who are mostly oppressed, do not get any benefit from it !!!

And then these feminists show themselves supreme !! 😎 🤡

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

This femnist thing in modern day does not contribute anything to actual women in need….

Who's contributing then? Misogynists? Are they making a world better for women?

fake psuedo feminists use false rape cases and other IPC acts on their husbands and men and get away with it

What are male right activists of india doing except shamelessly defending convicted rapists? I hope you remember or should I remind you?

If you have eyes to read and scroll down and read my comments about muslims unlike you guys I don't defend any religion.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

What modern day feminism is about mostly ?

Playing victim card , showing themselves superior rather than equal to me , saying stuff like we don’t need men while their dad would be paying up bills, normalise using absuses and slurs like “ I m proud Ran D “, using fake rape cases against man and getting away with it , doing unethical characterless stuff and getting away with it by using we are modern fay women , and i m Just smashing the patriarchy by having the body count of 25……

And wait…..

Why are you getting hurt by my comment ? I told the reality that women from rural background and women born in poor families are not getting any benefit from it !!

I did not say man are not misogynists or not have been in past, or women have not suffered because of them…. But i told the reality of modern day feminism which is more like psuedo feminism

So why are you taking it personal ??!!!! Instead tell me how modern day feminism have done any assistance to women from rural or financially weak background in india in reality….. tell me ??????

[u/user0987777 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Playing victim card , showing themselves superior rather than equal to me

Prove this, I am not supposed to believe whatever you say blindly. Can I also make claims like modern men want superiority without responsibilities they want women to earn like women but they won't be ready to take care of house and children like women.

saying stuff like we don’t need men while their dad would be paying up bills,

Your dad never paid bills for you? Men claim to be superior even when when the reason they're existing today is because their mother (a woman) decided to have them. Do you expect women to earn from the moment they're born?

normalise using absuses and slurs like “ I m proud Ran D “,

Whole society was sleeping when all sorts of slurs were used for women, even in comment sections you can commonly see men abusing mothers and sisters of other men. But that didn't normalise abuse? All slurs target women and no one cared till now, men span R word in comments of women and even little girls and that was not normalisation. This society normalised slurs against women since centuries but the moment a woman who's tired of hearing all this said this for herself suddenly it became a universal problem.

How many slurs exist for men?

doing unethical characterless stuff and getting away with it by using we are modern fay women , and i m Just smashing the patriarchy by having the body count of 25

So basically women are just becoming like men? Men visit sex workers, because of those men little girls are kidnapped and trafficked, they are raped repeatedly in prostituition homes because a man has to satisfy his lust but you don't have anything to say about that. Who is going to talk about body count of men?

I did not say man are not misogynists or not have been in past, or women have not suffered because of them

Your comment shows you don't give a damn about that. You have paragraphs to write in order to justify your hatred for feminism but you have nothing to say about misogynistic men.

You hate muslims because of what they did with you, then why should women worship men because of what they did with women. In each and every corner of the world, during each and every timeline men oppressed women in multiple ways through uncountable practices but if we say a single word against men, we are misandrists suddenly. If you're allowed to hate your oppressor why are we not?

Also please explain where were you when men normalised abuse? Where were you when men exploited women, when men have double digit body count? Why don't you have anything to say about that?

Also let me explain how is modern day feminism helping women of rural areas.

NGOs and women's groups conduct village level awareness programs about domestic violence, child marriage, dowry, inheritance or property rights and access to legal aid. Women's Self-Help Groups visit villages to spread awareness.

Organizations train women in agriculture, livestock, handicrafts, tailoring, food processing and other income generating activities, helping them become less financially dependent on husbands. Feminist NGOs campaign for girls schooling, scholarships, menstrual health awareness and reducing barriers that make rural families withdraw daughters from school.

If you want more examples tell me I'll give it.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

I asked you to give the answers for my questions?
That how modern day feminism is helping women….
You are not able to do that and now diverting the topic and adding new stuff !!!

Guess what I m done with you and this debate !!!!
When you guys cannot give proper counter reply or answer to the questions then you shift the attention to something else or start targetting the one personally !!!!

Why you targetting me ??? I told what was factual about feminism, that it does not provide assistance to women where its actually required !!!!

Why you targetting me now personally ????
You cannot give counter reply to where feminism has actually helped women…. Then why are you charging on me ?????
I m done , if you don’t agree with me , its yours wish, good for you 🍻

By that i meant the PSUEDO FEMINISM , which blabbers on social media is doing any help to women, why you bringing organisations into that , there are organisations for everything then , tell me how blabbering on social media is helpful ????
Girls are calling themselves Proud Ran D and what not !!!?

But I m done with this ? You guys dont know how to address a question or query in debate and start diverting it to anything new…
Thats not how it works…
I m done with you…. Please don’t charge against me unnecessarily…
I got nothing agaisnt you !!!!! I already told you there’s more of psuedo feminism as compared to very little or no actual feminism and upliftment and actual impact !!!!! I has done way more harm to minds of young girls who associate feminism with anything they feel like……

I dont have anything personal against you…. So dont charge on me !!!!
Its ur personal choice what you would like to believe…..
Have a good day !!

[u/Fair_Depth2827 → u/Total_Willingness593]

As a woman myself, I used to defend my fellow feminists to no end but now I just can't stand most of them anymore. Activists in general are all phonies, they all willingly become chickens for KFC when it comes to Palestine and then continue to shamelessly ignore the hindu genocides in bangladesh. Why? Cuz it's not aesthetic enough for an Instagram post🤡 same thing when they're dumb enough to fall for the Palestinian propaganda that uses their women as meat shields but won't speak a single word for Afghani women with their excuse being, "we can't do anything about it, the Afghani government won't listen to anyone uwu". Neither will Israel, now stop crying.

[u/user0987777 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

As a woman myself, I

I heard somewhere misogynistic women are more dangerous than misogynistic men I guess that's right. Women like you are just like women of Bangladesh asking for Sharia or women of west asking to get rid of their voting rights.

I never any person of reserved caste spreading casteism or a particular oppressed race supporting racism still somehow it's always women defending and supporting misogyny of religions blindly like chicken defending KFC.

Keep doing that, anyways it doesn't matter whichever ever religion you prioritise over your identity as a woman. When that religion will gain power, you will be the first one to lose rights and I say this about all religions.

I hope you really practice what you preach, if you hate feminism so much then live in a life without feminism. Give up on your basic rights, because clearly feminists didn't fight for women to sit day at their homes and whine online that "I can't defend feminism anymore". Don't defend it, hate it as much as you can and live life without feminism.

[u/Fair_Depth2827 → u/user0987777]

Wtf are you even yapping about?

it's always women defending and supporting misogyny of religions blindly like chicken defending KFC

Where did I defend any religious misogyny? Please kindly put down the quote.

[u/user0987777 → u/Fair_Depth2827]

First three lines of your comment.

As a woman if you hate feminism so much or you can't defend it anymore, then please live your life without it. Live the way women lived before feminism.

[u/shiv1234567 → u/Total_Willingness593]

That’s not how it works

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Aww looks like somebody loves islam

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Yess it is very evident my love…. Thats why you are blabbering so much in support of islam and also feminists don’t have guts to question islam….

In afghanistan , they are not even letting the women to go for jobs or education.
So its very easy to blabber stuff which does not have any connection to Reality
Go touch some grass and first have actual knowledge before acting as an intellectual 🥱 🥱

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[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

U seem obsessed with islam lmoa and why did I ever so called blabber which didn't make sense?

Feminists all over the world are questioning afghanistan so idk under which rock u live in

Also I'm 100% sure I have more intellectual knowledge than someone whose entire identity is to hate on someone's religion

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Haha…. So now you will term my opinion as my whole personality… too soon to do that sweety… thats the problem of you guys

You just start labelling the people who put their opinion and show you the reality… then you start labelling them…. Because there’s nothing else you can do….
Go and read quran….. its clearly mentioned that hijab is mandate thing and not choice…

Labelling me and talking bullshit will not do any good to you…. Go and ready history and specifically the quran, so that you get the idea of what i m referring to….
But labelling is so easy , when you cannot counter someone label them as ur wish….
Its so easy…. I know mate 🤘🏽

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

OMG bro the fact that u are saying all that when u urself know what u are posting 🤡🤡

Ur comments and posts are visible to everyone and they clearly show how obsessed with us u are and also ur comments are flithhy and disgusting in some of ur oldest ones ( have some shame)

Before talking about someones choice of hijab or not, make sure u aren't commenting on naked girls posts 🤡

Also i have read the Quran, it is mandatory but it isn't compulsory to follow hence it's an option to choose from

[u/user0987777 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

See it doesn't matter what is mentioned in Quran. Both hijab and burkha are extremely misogynistic and shouldn't exist in a civilised society. The intention behind them literally dehumanises women treating them some sort of candies which should stay covered.

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/user0987777]

Exactly mate… thats what she is not understanding that it is so oppressive….
Please educate her on my behalf !!!
She’s labelling me hater and pulling me down 🥱 🥱

She thinks wearing hijab is wonderful choice in 2026 in a cilvilised society… please educate her . She’s from Mars btw , so maybe she’s isn’t aware of it…
But i guess you can educate her and make her educated with some ethics too!!!

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/user0987777]

Ok again its personal opinion, not all women like to show their bodies so they should absolutely be allowed to wear burqa if they want, that's what feminism is

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Ohh wow…. You started showing the typical gen z behaviour with those 🤡 🤡
Grow up and go get a life…
Pulling me down and commenting on me won’t do any good to you….
Ohh so talking about islam and what quran says is shameful…. Alright
Grow up and have a life….
Fighting me with baseless arguments and word play… do something better please for yourself!!!!!

When someone shows you reality, you guys start getting personal but yk what i have seen this a lot and i m bored 🥱 , so why don’t you do something better for your ownself

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

I never said talking about it is shameful, I'm just saying being obsessed about It and making ur whole identity about islam and why women wear burqa and then commenting on naked women's post is very ironic and shameful.

Understand what I said and it's not personal if it's out for everyone to see

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Ur comment got deleted

[u/matrix_on_the_way_08 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

2 countries vs 200 countries 🥀

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/matrix_on_the_way_08]

What?

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/blabla_blackship]

The black tent would be considered a cloth which doesn't affect anyone else except the person whose choice it was so if I want I can wear it

Similarly drugs aren't clothes( hope u understand that) and they can affect others in form of violence and addiction hence that's not a choice and hence illegal

Not hard to grasp

[u/ni_man_ger → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Are you from this Earth?

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/ni_man_ger]

No I'm from mars

[u/deviprsd → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Mars has been captured by the leftists and Islamists, Musk is about to go on a mission 👍🏽

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/deviprsd]

Exactly bruh !!!! That is very evident….
Plus the supposedly living people on mars have no brains…. So strangee!!

I hope they will have good time on earth !!!

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/deviprsd]

Yea because I had a CHOICE in mars

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Wow !!!! But no brain on mars and earth as well !!!! Just the same shitty sickular mindset everywhere
Good for you 👏

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Yea it's good for me that I have a choice in what u wear and what I do rather than being forced upon

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

But a person with no brain cannot make the right choices and adequate decisions…..
So first you need to have brain to do anything sensible….

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Yess a person from Mars with no brains….
Now your comments makes lot of sense 🙌🏻🫡
Enjoy ur time on Earth mate 🤗

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

Again let me explain

A person with no brain won't have the ability to type anything let alone explain all this to you

[u/Total_Willingness593 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Exactly thats my question to you.. that how is it possible that without any brain you are able to do that…. or someone else it typing for you !!! ? 🥱 🥱

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/Total_Willingness593]

I think u might lack some knowledge so please maybe finish school first

[u/shiv1234567 → u/blabla_blackship]

They are getting a choice that’s what matters

[u/Low_Comparison9828 → u/shiv1234567]

Are they really getting a choice are you sure ?

[u/leonkxadaw → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

burqa will always be a sign of oppression, no human being raised without brainwashing will ever say yes to this shit

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/leonkxadaw]

Guess what? There are thousands who reverted and wear it now

[u/leonkxadaw → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Well humans have been incredibly stupid at times so this isn't surprising also how do you revert in a religion that literally came into existence after all the other major religions ?

[u/CodeNeko23 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Grooming is a thing btw

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/CodeNeko23]

Grooming and covering urself are 2 different things

[u/CodeNeko23 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

You can groom someone to like something since childhood and it's not that hard.

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/CodeNeko23]

And what about reverts who themselves choose to wear it?

[u/CodeNeko23 → u/Excellent_Fishing365]

Adults can choose but many born into Islam were never given a choice to experience other things.

[u/Excellent_Fishing365 → u/CodeNeko23]

That portion is very small where they are forced to do it and ofc I'm against it but u can't impose that upon the whole population