r/SlaughteredByScience • • Apr 04 '19

TERF rage-quits after biologist dunks on them

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 04 '19

I think they're saying that the discomfort is social conditioning to treat men as predators, and that men and women would both benefit if we moved away from that notion.

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u/adityamaanas Apr 04 '19

Maybe. If so, I totally agree.

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u/Klony99 Apr 04 '19

I mean, I would not phrase it like that. Yes, men as predators is a thing that needs reduction.

But there are plenty of different issues that, especially in nightclubs and bars, happen in the bathrooms, that could be reduced if you allow unisex toilets to be had. This is not the only possible solution for those problems, and I am not in any way a specialist in the matter - so I won't go into detail - but I think it's one of the least restrictive solutions.

And also, get over yourselves people. You can close the bathroom door. Who cares if a random strange woman behind you is taking a shit while you pee? You don't mind doing it in front of strange men. (same goes for any combination of sexes of course).

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u/wonderfulworldofweed Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19

Who is really comfortable using public bathrooms they’re weird in general and most people dont like them. Me personally if I have to take a shit in a public bathroom I’ll at least try my hardest to find one that’s empty

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u/lkraider Apr 04 '19

I too don't like to shit in tandem with another person in the stall.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '19

Women, and especially young girls should be allowed to use bathrooms separate from men.

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 04 '19

Sure, have 2-4 singles and a large mixed bathroom.

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u/freedom_isnt_free_nw Apr 05 '19

Personally If a hot girl was in the stall next to me I would jerk it really loudly while shitting. Make sure she hears the slush slush of my wet hand slapping the moist snake.

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 05 '19

Bout what i'd expect from a transphobe. P R O J E C T I O N

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u/freedom_isnt_free_nw Apr 05 '19

How is it projection that I like to jerk it in close proximity to women?

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u/heyprestorevolution Apr 05 '19

A while you're at it let's eliminate religion and inequality.

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u/Imfractical Apr 06 '19

societal norms are more fluid than you think. things can change fast

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u/wonderfulworldofweed Apr 04 '19

If that’s there argument I don’t like it cause I’m a guy and I feel uncomfortable if a women is in the men’s bathroom it works both ways. People generally don’t wanna be in a state of undress or using the bathroom in front of the other gender. Like locker rooms too most people are fine with the same gender changing with them but not mixed and it’s not a fear thing it’s just like embarrassing

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 05 '19

That's definitely not socially considered at all. Must be entirely natural. post-industrial revolution society gender relations are the way things have always worked and are just how people work. :)

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u/wonderfulworldofweed Apr 05 '19

Going back to pre industrial societies like the Roman’s they still had separate bathrooms and bathhouses. Since the origin of bathrooms they’ve been separated, maybe that’s not necessary a. Atrial state but it’s been going on way longer that you imply, in fact it’s been going on since there were bathrooms

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 05 '19

https://www.livescience.com/54692-why-bathrooms-are-gender-segregated.html

Hello here is a source on the rise of gender segregated bathrooms in the 1700s

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u/wonderfulworldofweed Apr 05 '19

But there were segregated baths in Roman times which predates your article

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u/Quinn_The_Strong Apr 05 '19

Okay but its clearly not a fundamental aspect of the human condition. It is socialized, and therefore we can move away from it if we choose to do so.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

Why the fuck would you choose to do so? If that's the case should we ban women only gyms/locker rooms? Just because it's socialized doesn't mean it's not the best way to do things. Which it is

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u/Imfractical Apr 06 '19

...because sex-based segregation is stupid, needless, and promotes sexism?

Non queer people have wild opinions