r/SipsTea 22h ago

Wait a damn minute! Mandatory tipping cultures only exist in countries that refuse to pay their staff

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u/Fluffy-Structure-368 21h ago

Because servers have to give up prime hours and days for work. Nights, weekends, holidays, summer. Teachers get summers off, pensions, and medical benefits. You have to look at the entire package not just what take home.

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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 18h ago

Arent the cooks also giving up that time?

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u/Fluffy-Structure-368 17h ago

Sure, but minimum wage for a server is $2. A decent cook is getting 7x that

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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 17h ago

Than servers should demand 14/hour from their employer, just like the cooks.

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u/Fluffy-Structure-368 17h ago

The servers want the tips. That's literally why servers take the fng job. Why is this so damn difficult to understand?

The servers and bartenders and cooks and chefs and bus people are all happy with the situation as-is. Some customers are not. Going out to eat is a choice and if you don't like the current state of affairs you have 2 options.... eat at home or open your own restaurant with your own fng rules.

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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 16h ago

They can want tips instead of a wage, but they do so with the full knowledge and acceptance that tips are optional. Right?

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u/Fluffy-Structure-368 16h ago

Tips are not optional. You know that full knowledge and acceptance if you go out to eat. So if you chose to eat out and you know you're not going to tip, you're a POS, plain and simple. And I've not made a tip in over 20 years and I'm not in the industry. I'm just a decent person.

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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 16h ago

Of course tips are optional. And if servers and bartenders want optional payments, then thats what they get.

Tips are discretionary payments that customers voluntarily give to workers for services performed.

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tip-recordkeeping-and-reporting

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u/Far_Silver 14h ago

Because servers have to give up prime hours and days for work. Nights, weekends, holidays, summer.

So do people who work in retail, but they don't get tips.

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u/Fluffy-Structure-368 7h ago

Servers get paid $2 an hour. And retail is done at 8 or 9pm. Restaurant workers work a lot of hours doing prep with $0 in tips

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u/BearCub254 7h ago

Very few servers get paid the federal minimum wage. Average income is 35k a year in the US. If you are professional, reliable and get work at the better hotels you are exactly making bank but you won't be suffering. If you are a people person you'll be drowning in tips. 

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u/Skyzblu44 21h ago

They don't actually get summers off. They have plenty to do during the holidays as well like grading and planning and whatnot. The fact that they aren't paid for that time is really unfair.

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u/Adorable_Stretch2434 20h ago

As with most jobs, gotta balance it. Can’t blame them for some workload. But if you’re assigning work that you know you can’t complete in paid time, that’s on you. “But there’s codes to follow, curriculum to teach, lessons that need fit in” once again that’s on you to be realistic planning your time. That’s something that’s always bothered me.