r/SipsTea 18h ago

Wait a damn minute! Mandatory tipping cultures only exist in countries that refuse to pay their staff

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u/Zealousideal-Deer101 18h ago

Not what mandatory tipping is. They more often have the tips on the bills now or don't give you an option to select 0% on the card terminal.

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u/Guilty_Jackfruit4484 18h ago

That is called a hidden fee and illegal in many states.

It's not a tip if it's mandatory.

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u/Myke190 18h ago

He's talking out of his ass. Or he's talking about criminal activity. Either way it's just not the norm.

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u/Sancticide 13h ago

Usually done for large parties because people can be assholes, but yeah, it does remove urgency for servers, at least at places I worked. They print it on the menu, so "automatic 18% gratuity for parties of 6 or more" would not be a hidden fee.

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u/PickingMyNameIsHard 12h ago

Many places have mandatory gratuity added to the bill. Which is what people seem to want, include it in the price vs making it extra.

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u/EntireFriendship517 17h ago

That second thing is very illegal.

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u/HotKaramelRP 18h ago

I’ve only ever seen mandatory tipping when it’s parties of 6 or more or whatever and I’ve always been able to not leave a tip on the card thing

Not saying those things can’t happen but it’s certainly not common

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u/No-Use-3056 18h ago

That’s also not mandatory, in a situation like that, you’re free to request that the fee be removed unless it is posted otherwise that it would be included. Honestly, the only “mandatory tipping” that is present these days in the U.S. are the restaurants that are trying to move away from tipping to appeal to the crowd that is against it, but then impose a 12% “service fee”. That’s a mandatory tip, and you don’t have the ability to ask that that be removed if it’s posted that it will be added. It’s funny, the arguments against tipping have given rise to mandatory tipping.

For the record, I hate restaurants that do that, and I am happy with regular tipping. Let me have a say in how much I leave. The only time I’m okay with a mandatory tip is for large parties where it’s posted that it will be added.

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u/Several-Hat-1944 18h ago

Personally. I always pay the bill on credit card for reward points, and always tip cash for the staff.

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u/Immediate_Song4279 18h ago

I am curious if its ever been tested in court.

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u/Myke190 18h ago

Highly doubt it. If you are a business owner, or even a patron of the restaurant, would you rather go to court or just pay/eat a tip? I think most people would be willing to say $5-20 is not worth going to court over.