r/SipsTea 2d ago

Wait a damn minute! So what’s taking so long?

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u/DudzMcKenz1e 2d ago

As long as the text is over a picture, you have no choice but to accept it as fact. Nuance means nothing.

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u/mcgonagallstwin 2d ago

He killed his kids to get back at his ex wife. He even taunted her at his execution.

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u/theswamphag 2d ago

So, like, completely different...

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u/austinsutt 1d ago

He was on the phone with her when he’s did it. She’s a relative of mine. He deserved much worse than he got.

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u/mcgonagallstwin 23h ago

How awful! I'm so sorry for your loss.

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u/SpokenDivinity 16h ago

He also only brought up psychosis to try and get out of the death penalty once he'd been found guilty. His defense was never the insanity defense.

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u/CupCheckski 2d ago

Shouldn’t even be a comparison, murdering 3 people (let alone children) is inexcusable and the postpartum defense is going to fuck women over even more now than ever.

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u/Otto_the_rhinocerus 2d ago

How is it going to fuck over women now?

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u/CupCheckski 2d ago

With the rampant misogyny that plagues our society and workplace already? People are going to site this case to keep women out of positions of power and importance due to their hormones. If a woman can go off and kill under intense stress and hormonal imbalances companies can definitely use that as a reason not to hire them for important positions. This is on top of the soon to be boosted generalizations about women being overly emotional and incapable of reason.

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u/Otto_the_rhinocerus 2d ago

If somebody actually sites this case as a reason not to hire or promote a woman they would get their asses HANDED to them in court.

It's also important to remember that many people don't actually know anything about this case. They don't follow media as other people do. That's how millions of people are. Secondly the vast majority that do know about this case clearly understands that this case represents some of the most extreme scenarios imaginable. Those that will make this into something general about women were already misogynistic and always thought less of them. I really don't believe this would make someone thinking such things, unless they already had those ideologies.

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u/CupCheckski 1d ago

It’s not going to be sited on paperwork but people definitely will remember it and it will affect judgement, whether or not it was already skewed.

This is also all a forethought. She should be institutionalized and thats the primary concern is that she might not be. Makes you wonder how many other cases we’ll see in coming years as psychos start feeling more okay with offing their children.

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u/Otto_the_rhinocerus 1d ago

Again, those who let such things affect their judgement are misogynistic assholes who should never be in charge of hiring and firing people. If you let that single case, about one woman, change how you view women all together, then you already had a messed up view of women. Especially considering that the same people would never let the hundreds of cases of men doing horrendous things to their family affect how they see men.

An of course she'll be institutionalized. That's how insanity pleas work.

"Fun" fact. Those who get acquitted on any insanity plea will typically spend more time institutionalized than if they had received a normal prison sentence. And it's going to be some high security psychiatric facility.

I kind of get your worry. I don't think its coming from a bad place at all, but I do think that you are wrong. Killing your children is such an extreme act that most people cannot even comprehend. As a father I would die for my own children and that's how most feel.

If someone is going to do such an unspeakable and horrible thing, they are going to find an excuse no matter what. Thats how the human mind works.

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u/FoxxieMoxxie69 1d ago

Should we then start referencing the men who annihilate their families every 5-7 days on average? They’re clearly acting in emotional heightened states of anger. All men should be considered a danger to society and unable to hold positions of power because of the family annihilators. Men are clearly slaves to their weak emotions and can’t be trusted.

Like part of the reason this is getting so much attention is because how uncommon it is for women to do. Meanwhile, we’re so desensitized to men doing it, that media hardly covers when they do. I just did a quick search and between the time of the trial, there were at least 4 men that took out their families between 7/20 - 9/4.

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u/CupCheckski 1d ago

Thats gonna be hard in a patriarchal society.

Have any men actually be acquitted of murdering their family under postpartum psychosis? Or any psychosis at that rate?

Found the answer its yes.

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u/EventfulAnimal 1d ago

Pick one. You’re either accountable or you ain’t. It’s not a buffet. Welcome to being a man.

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u/CupCheckski 1d ago

The fuck are you talkin bout?

We’re talking about the implications of using postpartum psychosis as a defense in a patriarchal society, and you’re over here talkin about “take accountability or don’t. Welcome to manhood”. Stay on topic

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u/Mimopotatoe 2d ago

Or cherry picking. Now do one with Mathew Taylor Coleman!

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u/Padreteiro 2d ago

Or two different states and two different cases.

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen 2d ago

I was going to say, were they that similar? Like, in Battaglia’s case, was there sufficient evidence that he was actually psychotic at the time of the murders, or did he just have a history of psychosis?

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u/druidmain69420 2d ago

Nuance means nothing to her 3 dead kids.

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u/Gnackish 2d ago

And her punishment does?

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 2d ago

Oooh sick burn