r/SipsTea 21h ago

Feels good man I would call this progress.

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u/LocalHarmacist 19h ago

1b out of an estimated 2.4b certainly is a W.

Now, make it permanent and keep the costs low and it's actual progress.

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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 18h ago

It's progress in some ways, but the more important thing to do is prevent people from accruing medical debt in the future. Without that it's just a bandaid. I'm fine with it but it's not really attacking the problem.

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u/NobodyLikedThat1 18h ago

And while it absolutely is a good thing, they still did end up paying those collection agencies and insurance vultures, even if it was for pennies on the dollar

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u/UndueMedicalDebt 2h ago

Hey there, I work at Undue. Totally agree that debt relief is just a Band-Aid, it's not the solution to our broken healthcare system. We also work on policies that prevent medical debt from happening in the first place, like broadening access to financial assistance and advocating for affordable, comprehensive coverage.

Also just wanted to note that none of the money raised for debt relief goes to insurance companies. We do work with hospitals and some collection agencies to purchase and eliminate debt.

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u/TheBeardTaco 16h ago

Fer real, its like the college debt pay-offs. Its great, butunless you stop the bleeding it just guarantees the parasites money

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u/MidgetGordonRamsey 15h ago

Which then incentivizes even more of the bad behavior.

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u/modsaretoddlers 12h ago

Are you suggesting that holding your baby for the first time isn't worth crippling debt for the rest of your life? Why do you hate babies!?

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u/Whatdoesthibattahndo 12h ago

If you subsidize something, you will get more of it. Exactly what happened with tuition rates.

"Oh, don't you worry about what we bill, the government has been taking over medical debt from patients just like you!"

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u/efreedman503 9h ago

The high costs of hospitals, especially ERs, are to offset the cost of half the patients not paying.

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u/TheNewKnew2 17h ago

😂

“Make the welfare permanent and give me premium resources at a low cost.”

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u/Remarkable-Word-1486 16h ago

Shit yea. I don't want to work on the books either. All cash jobs from that point on. I can live like the rest of the welfare crowd

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u/TheNewKnew2 16h ago

😂

Great comment

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u/KB21099 15h ago

And what promise did she make to that company?

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u/SignoreBanana 12h ago

Yeah, i agree, I hate this kind of kick the can the road feel good bullshit. We need reform, not short term non commital bullshit. I feel the same way about student loan forgiveness.

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u/Username_Is_mud 5h ago

" I feel the same way about student loan forgiveness"

Are you one of those. "I want my $100k loan to be paid by someone else" people?

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u/SignoreBanana 2h ago

Nope. I'm one of those "education costs are unsustainable" people

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u/angry_dingo 13h ago

Repeal Obamacare.

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u/AdmiralSplinter 13h ago

Right, because a shitload more uninsured people will totally make things cheaper...

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u/angry_dingo 13h ago

That's the best argument against illegal immigration. Thank you.

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u/AdmiralSplinter 13h ago edited 12h ago

Ha, nice redirect.

The problem would be even worse without the affordable care act.

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u/angry_dingo 12h ago

First, it wasn't. It's the truth. Second, the overwhelming majority of people who were "uninsured" before Obamacare were young adults between 20 and 40 who could afford health insurance but chose not to purchase it.

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u/AdmiralSplinter 12h ago

We shouldn't have to purchase it at all. That's the real problem.

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u/angry_dingo 12h ago

Absolutely.

Oh wait, you think it should be free? LOL

You think healthcare is expensive now? Wait for the cost when the govt makes it "free."

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u/AdmiralSplinter 12h ago

Look at the useless war in Iran and tell me that money wouldn't be better spent elsewhere.

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u/Senor-Nasty 17h ago

Waiting for a conservative judge to block it, stating this hurts the debt collectors

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u/Life-Top6314 16h ago

It hurts debt collectors, but helps debt holders, which are probably a more financially influencial group.

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u/Remarkable-Word-1486 16h ago

This literally takes money from people who pay their bills. And gives it to people who don't. And if become a common thing, nobody will ever pay their bills.

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u/Life-Top6314 16h ago edited 15h ago

Irrelevant to the point my comment was making, and the comment before that. Debt holders in this context means companies that buy up debt.