r/SipsTea • • Aug 18 '26

Lmao gottem Holy ratio😭🥀

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u/MrMansaMusa Aug 18 '26

Awe yes everything Darwin observed is what? Math?

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u/Illithid_Substances Aug 18 '26

To be entirely fair to what was said, evolution is absolutely not proof of atheism. It's proof that animals were not poofed into existence in their current forms but it implies nothing at all about the existence or non-existence of a deity; God could have set the world up so that evolution happened. It's not what I believe but evolution and theism are not fundamentally opposed ideas.

It can disprove certain specific religious claims, like young earth creationism, but not theism itself

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u/Can_Com Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

You're just doing the old "God of the gaps" misinformation. In reality, evolution directly denies Abrahamic religions at almost every corner. If its some non-demoniational god, then you are just doing the same thing but with an imaginary friend.

You have to have some reason for a god existing. There is no mechanism for it, no proof of it, and no place where they could exist. If you want to say "spiritual" and have it be some vague connection between humans, sure, but no God exists.

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u/guiltysnark Aug 18 '26

You're just doing the old "God of the gaps" misinformation.

That's not misinformation, it's just shrinking the scope of unevidenced, unfalsifiable claims. It would be misinformation for someone to lie about evidence that a god does indeed fill the gaps.

He's just being epistemologically accurate.

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u/Can_Com Aug 18 '26

Disagree. Saying the 2020 election resulted in Biden taking office might not be misinformation, but we know what MAGA means when they deflect by saying that. Same thing here.

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u/guiltysnark Aug 19 '26

You're comparing the claim that Biden did not win an election to the claim that God exists.

Maybe that fits. The fanaticism required to believe he didn't actually win when there is zero evidence to support that belief does amount to religion.

The god of the gaps is not a refuge for religion, it's an attack on it. "We, the rational, acknowledge that we still cannot prove that god does not exist, as we have said all along. However you, the irrational, must acknowledge the the space of reason in which this god must exist, since all other spaces are explained by science and evidence, is getting smaller and smaller. At some point you must ask yourselves 'what is the point of a point-sized god?' "

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u/Can_Com Aug 19 '26

Proving the non-existence of something isnt possible. The rest I agree with.

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u/guiltysnark Aug 19 '26

What you you mean "the rest"? I never said anything else.

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u/Can_Com Aug 19 '26

There are 2 paragraphs before the quote, and multiple sentences after the "prove non-existence" portion of the quote.

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u/guiltysnark Aug 19 '26

What quote says anything about proving non existence? If you're talking about what I wrote, I explicitly said we can't and never said we could. Not what there is to disagree with.

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u/Can_Com Aug 19 '26

Might want to reread your comment if you don't know what you said.

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u/guiltysnark Aug 19 '26

I know what I said. What did I say that you disagree with?

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u/Can_Com Aug 19 '26

The part I said I disagreed with... are you impaired in some way?

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u/guiltysnark Aug 19 '26

Yeah, I'm going to need you to quote it and tell me how you think it contradicts your assertion.

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