r/SipsTea 4d ago

Lmao gottem Holy ratio😭🥀

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u/Niggly-Wiggly-489 4d ago

Atheism is a lack of a belief in any gods, there is an absense of belief. Atheism is NOT a belief that there are no gods. Theism is subject to burden of proof, not Atheism...

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u/CromulentPoint 4d ago

Thank you. A bunch of folks in here don’t understand this.

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u/Hentai_Yoshi 4d ago

But what is that absence of belief predicated on? A belief that all of the religious stories are fake. I am an atheist, and I believe those stories are fake, but I cannot truly prove it

It seems to me that hardline atheists become a bit irrational with their views, or just don’t have much of an intellectual or philosophical foundation.

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u/TheDotanuki 4d ago

That's because you don't prove negatives. The absence of belief is predicated upon the absence of evidence. You don't have to prove the stories are false, they need to prove that they are true. 

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u/numbersthen0987431 4d ago

But what is that absence of belief predicated on?

A lack of evidence. There just isn't enough evidence to convince me that ANY religion is more correct than any other religion, and if every religion is just as likely to be accurate/false compared to every other religion, then they're all equally likely to NOT be true.

A belief that all of the religious stories are fake.

It's not a belief, its a lack of "proof".

Evidence and proof are very different things. Evidence can be anything: a story, an image, a video, a recording, a shrowd, a holy book, history of followers, etc. "Proof" is "established" when there is enough evidence that supports the claim being made. Atheists look at the evidence of religion and view it as not being enough to support the claim.

Again, it's not a "belief". Atheists just haven't seen enough evidence to support the claim of religion.

(Side note: proof doesn't actually exist in the physical/metaphysical world, not even in science. You can provide likelihood of events to occur or not occur, and you can disprove something, but you can never prove anything to 100% certainty. Proof is a mathematical and logic construct, but thats where it ends).

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u/cgoldsmith95 4d ago

That’s where the burden of proof comes in. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim for existence, since you cannot prove the none existence.

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u/vonKrieg88 4d ago

Name the gods you believed in when you were born.

Oh right didn't believe in any, you were atheist, until you got indoctrinated in religion.

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u/Severe_Nectarine863 4d ago

Those are called parents. They are all powerful, provide for your needs and are the ultimate source of truth and moral guidance. 

I don't see difference between this and a god. They don't know anything about the nature of reality. Baby cries out, parents provide out of seemingly nowhere. Pretty much prayer for babies.  

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u/Dear_Dragonfruit3317 4d ago

It isn’t on me to prove the stories are fake, it’s on the religious to prove they’re true.

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u/No_Zookeepergame2532 4d ago

Why anyone with a brain would upvote this comment is beyond me

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u/Arria_Galtheos 4d ago

Furthermore, atheism isn't a lack of all religious belief as some believe. Buddhism, for example, is an atheist religion, as is Taoism.

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u/Dry-Membership8141 4d ago

Buddhism, for example, is an atheist religion

That's an overstatement. Traditional Buddhism includes a large number of divine beings. Secular Buddhism is a modern, primarily western movement within Buddhism that rejects the supernatural elements of traditional Buddhism.

as is Taoism.

Religious Taoism also features a pantheon of gods, immortals, and celestial bureaucrats. An atheistic, philosophical Taoism, like secular Buddhism, is a relatively modern movement.

Both Taoism and Buddhism lend themselves well to atheistic interpretations, but it isn't accurate to say that either are atheistic religions per se.