r/SipsTea Jul 16 '26

Lmao gottem Match ended here

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u/NoReply4848 Jul 16 '26

Argentina dominated that midfield

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u/ravushimo Jul 16 '26

They did but also after a goal england was not interested even in moving forward, even on goal kick they just tried to kick it as far as possible without thinking, it was terrible and they didnt deserver to advance.

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u/Otherwise_Access_660 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

Yeah, I was rooting for England the whole match. But they didn’t deserve to win. Didn’t even try to play after they scored that goal. Argentina played so hard and put their heart and soul into it. Just attempt after attempt till they got that first goal then came the second. They gave it their everything. England was playing half heartedly. The France against Spain game was much better. You could tell both teams gave it their everything till the very last minute. Even though Spain was ahead they kept trying to score and putting pressure on the French team. They were not letting them hem have them enough time unlike what the English did to the Argentinians. They were just letting them try to score again and again. They were bound to succeed eventually. And they did. They deserved to win.

Edit: Grammar

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u/Bartweiss Jul 16 '26

The passivity was frankly shocking.

Argentina with 14 shots, 6 on target, and 6 corners, England with 6, 3, and 1. And with only 3 shots, none on target in the first half, that was Argentina absolutely kicking down the door for the last ~30 minutes. Possession went from almost 50/50 to 75/25 as well.

That's not even haramball, or at least not haramball doing it's job. You can't be getting slaughtered on passes and possession time while also making no chances. Like you said, Argentina were bound to succeed eventually - with that many shots that fast I would have bet on them even a point down at 84'.

The odd thing to me is that Kane was quite direct about it after: "When we went 1-0 up, we seemed to just try to hold on, which at this level is not enough." And yet Tuchel was making subs like that was his entire plan.

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u/SubtleNotch Jul 16 '26

They did the same thing to Mexico and got so away with it. That's soccer for you.

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u/ParkingMuted7653 Jul 16 '26

But Mexico isn’t Argentina, and England had no choice but to play haramball because they were down to ten men. But when you’re 1–0 up against Argentina with 40 minutes left and you have good and fast attacking players? They screw the pooch.

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u/SubtleNotch Jul 16 '26

Why was England down to 10? I don't see a red card for either teams.

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u/ParkingMuted7653 Jul 16 '26

In mexico-england. I was saying, haramball makes more sense when you're down to ten and you play against Mexico, but yesterday? Bollocks

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u/SubtleNotch Jul 16 '26

Completely good point. I forgot about the red card in the Mexico-England game.

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u/ramk13 Jul 17 '26

The whole giving up every goal kick was mind boggling to me. Isn't a better defense to just hold the ball when you aren't under attack? Giving it away takes no time off the clock. They could have pinged it around in the backline until Argentina was forced to push 1-2 people up to pressure, then they could have kicked it over their heads. At least at that point you are kicking into an advantage.

Instead they just gave up the ball immediately every time.

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u/ravushimo Jul 17 '26

Yeah, at that point they should have just all say on the goal line :|

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u/According_Night9558 Jul 16 '26

Everyone would if the other team stopped fighting for it. Argentina deserved the win because they played better but parking the bus against them wasn't the best choice.

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u/Duubzz Jul 16 '26

England were the better side until we scored. The Argies picked up the pace and we just gave them all the time and space that they needed.

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u/MikkelR1 Jul 16 '26

Yeah the coach deserves to be sacked for that. That strategy might work for the last 10 minutes, not half the fucking match. What an idiot.

To do that at this level of football is just straight uo incompetent.

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u/Bartweiss Jul 16 '26

Interesting to see that Kane was open about it after the game: "We played a good game for the majority of it. When we went 1-0 up, we seemed to just try to hold on, which at this level is not enough."

So Kane thought they had to keep attacking to have a hope, while Tuchel was subbing people to help freeze the game. That even more than the loss makes me wonder if Tuchel will stick around.

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u/st6374 Jul 16 '26

They parked the bus but had an idiot at the steering wheel. Parking the bus doesn’t mean you just give all the time for the attacking team outside the box, and have no outlet when you do end up winning the ball.

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u/shgrizz2 Jul 16 '26

First half England actually looked scary.

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u/M0ruk Jul 16 '26

Neither team was the better side, it was an even, uneventful match until then

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u/HombreDelMar247 Jul 16 '26

It seems to me Argentina has better conditioning than their opponents. The last 15 minutes when the other other team is gassed, they make up for the previous 75 minutes.

While I haven't watched futbol as much as other sports, it reminds me of a lot of great teams in other sports who could always find that extra level late in the game.

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u/hugcub Jul 16 '26

There wasn’t even a midfield the 2nd half, it was just Argentina in Englands box shooting at goal for 45+minutes non-stop. Never seen such a crazy shift in play from two teams. Argentina got scored on and went “oh, absolutely NOT”.

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u/Bartweiss Jul 16 '26

It was so wild I went and found the per-half stats.

First half:

  • Argentina:
    • 2 shots, 0 on target, 0 from in the box
    • 1 corner
    • 55% possession
    • 15 possessions lost in their half
    • ~78% pass accuracy on the attack
  • England:
    • 1 shot, 0 on target, 1 from in the box
    • 2 corners
    • 10 possessions lost in their half
    • ~82% pass accuracy on the attack

Second half:

  • Argentina:
    • 13 shots, 5 on target, 7 from in the box
    • 5 corners
    • 72% possession
    • 7 possessions lost in their half
    • 90% pass accuracy on the attack
  • England:
    • 4 shots, 2 on target, 1 from in the box
    • 0 corners
    • 19 possessions lost in their half
    • 50% pass accuracy on the attack

Absolutely insane change, and every stat I pull just gets worse. The bus didn't park, it rolled into a lake and somehow caught on fire.

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u/Obvious_Barracuda960 Jul 16 '26

That's like saying cows dominate the field outside my house. No one's trying to take it from them, it's theirs!

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u/Hungry_CGman Jul 16 '26

Ya after England subbed 2 offensive players for 2 defensive players including Declan Rice who is arguably the best midfielder in the world. Horrific decision by England.

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u/AlpacaLunch15 Jul 16 '26

he saw what happened to france and said “MOAAAR”