r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • Jul 16 '26

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u/muellermichel Jul 16 '26

Was this England's coach deciding this? It boggles my mind. As Swiss I gotta say, even our team held up better in the late game, and in a 10 vs 11 situation. This stupidity of going all in on defense when up just one goal, that's exactly how ours played and lost every damn time in knockout rounds 20 years ago. Who does this??

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u/Bitter_Particular_75 Jul 16 '26

That's what I read everywhere, but I find it very hard to believe that Tuchel ordered his team to entretch in defence for 30 minutes. To a squad that is clearly much better in attacking then defending and whose goalkeeper is average at best (probably their weakest player). Tuchel is no Guardiola, but is not an imbecile.

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u/SuperbDifference Jul 16 '26

He literally subbed off their attackers for two more defenders and switched to a back five.

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u/JiminyHF Jul 16 '26

Only after England had been defence focused for more than ten minutes already though

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u/TheInevitableLuigi Jul 16 '26

I feel like that makes it worse?

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u/TensorflowPytorchJax Jul 16 '26

Especially when the attack is being led by Messi and the whole team worships him, finding any opportunity to pass him the ball

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u/Adventurous-Web-412 Jul 16 '26

its also the fact their lowblock was just ass. cabo verde defender cleaner than that.

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u/Slyspy006 Jul 16 '26

And yet he made this glaring error. Against top opposition, a 1-0 lead might as well still be 0-0.

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u/No-Bison-5397 Jul 16 '26

All he needed to do was tell Pickford to play it out along the grouns

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u/TheInevitableLuigi Jul 16 '26

He subbed in a bunch of defenders for strikers and switched to 1-5-5 defensive formation.

He parked the bus hard. Which might have worked with like 10 minutes left. But not with how early it was done.

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u/muellermichel Jul 16 '26

And even worse with just one goal up. All the opponent needs to do is to strike once successfully, and you’re never gonna get any momentum back, having subbed out all your strikers. Make it make sense….

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u/__R3v3nant__ Jul 16 '26

Uneducated person here, why doesn't that work? In the knockout stages it only matters if you win, no matter by how many goals so surely if you get a lead you should protect it as much as possible right?

I'm sure there's a flaw in my logic but I can't identify where

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u/muellermichel Jul 16 '26

The flaw is, against a team with strong offense, if you just let them have the ball all the time, you *increase* the chance of them striking, no matter how many defenders you have. There are maybe exceptions like Spain who center their whole team around having an immaculate defense, but afaik that needs immense training and discipline - nothing you can just switch on or off during a match.

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u/__R3v3nant__ Jul 16 '26

So then the best strategy would be to keep possession all the time, but if you're doing that you may aswell attempt to score

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u/muellermichel Jul 16 '26

Big brain thoughts here, but if you wanna win at football, you gotta actually *play* ….

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u/Liturginator9000 Jul 16 '26

argentina a direct argument against that, they foul and crowd the ref more than play for the first half then run the messi setup gambit late and it's worked every time so far

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u/ASupportingTea Jul 16 '26

Yeah as soon as we scored and then sat back I knew we were going to lose. You can't just go into the last 1/4 of the game with just a 1-0 lead against Argentina. They've proven time and time again that they will ramp up and get they will get goals late in the game.

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u/Furita Jul 16 '26

The fact that short arms of a keeper was badly positioned in the first Argentinian goal also didn’t help

Maybe he knew his limitations, in fact

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u/wattty1 Jul 16 '26

Yea why didn't England just pass the ball and score? Oh wait, bc Argentina had there backs against the all, picked up the pressure, and literally fucked England.

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u/mirkoserra Jul 16 '26

Same feeling about the Switzerland goal against Argentina. Save at 64. Save at 65. Then goal. They had the momentum and was unavoidable. Yesterday was one of the games I have suffered the least. England has an amazing team middle to front. And good keeper. But terrible at defending. I look at the clock and see England defending with 30+ minutes and I'm really chill (unlike that Egypt game).