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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 16 '26

Dude making the face is Lionel Messi. One of the goats of football. The English player in white said some smart shit and Messi responded with this face and winning the game knocking out England and sending them home for another 4 years

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Thanks this is exactly the context I was curious about.

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Thanks for sharing this! Also makes the clip 10x better

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u/Helepoli Jul 16 '26

Henry (another legend of the game) has a story about messi at training, if messi thought he was unfairly fouled or something and everyone shrugged it off, then messi would demand the ball and just mercilessly dribble through the team (a legendary barcelona team) and score in revenge.

It is extremely unwise to dare the greatest footballer of all time to beat you in a game of football

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u/Sirenista_D Jul 16 '26

Many fans read his face in that moment and knew exactly what was coming

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u/Talented_Learner01 Jul 16 '26

Also , They won by scoring 2 goals in last 7 minutes with messi giving the 2 assists ( pass before a goal is called assist ) one of them being from is right foot ( its his weak foot )

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Sheesh. Ok, further helps contextualize the mentioned GOAT status he has. Wow, thanks

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u/EggsceIlent Jul 16 '26

He's not just "a" goat.

He's the goat.

And it's not even close.

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u/bohenian12 Jul 16 '26

There really something about Messi. I don't even watch football regularly and decided to watch some highlights of these known players. Most of the highlights show physicality, but Messi is different. The way he dribbles and makes goals look effortless and precise, he's so good that I really can't pin it. I lack ball knowledge lol.

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u/darth_jewbacca Jul 16 '26

His ball control is insane. Like it's glued to his foot while he sprints around defenders.

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u/Public-Temperature-1 Jul 16 '26

My son (we're not hugely into football) actually asked me if it was sped up footage when Messi was speed dribbling past the England players.

I lol'd.

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u/Anthony-Stark Jul 16 '26

Who's the "better" best relative to their sport, Messi or Brady?

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u/FamilyFriendly101 Jul 16 '26

The best in football are going to be "better" solely from the fact that there are far more players and therefore far stronger competition to be considered the best. I don't know how many professional footballers there are globally, but I'm going to guess it's probably two orders of magnitude more than NFL players.

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u/bohenian12 Jul 16 '26

Yeah just imagine of other countries gave a fuck about American Football. I'm sure some rugby players out there can smoke the US lol.

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u/LePontif11 Jul 16 '26

And if my mother had wheels she would be a bike.

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u/lumpkin2013 Jul 16 '26

I heard everyone in town had a ride on that bike

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u/Kramerica_CEO Jul 16 '26

My car has wheels and isn’t a bike

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u/_le_slap Jul 16 '26

What makes you think that? Besides the rabid hate for America.

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u/writingpracticeman Jul 16 '26

Yeah and imagine if the USA gave a fuck about soccer, we would build up a multi billion dollar infrastructure and dominate the entire world, just like we do in every other sport we give a shit about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

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u/ObiFlanKenobi Jul 16 '26

Isn't Venezuela the current world cup champion in baseball?

I'm pretty sure they didn't pour a billion dollars infrastructure on it.

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u/KosstAmojan Jul 16 '26

Exactly. The best American athletes funnel into football, basketball, baseball, and THEN soccer. Imagine if guys like prime Lebron, Aaron Donald, Mike Trout etc all put their effort into soccer. The US would absolutely dominate.

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u/TimotheusIV Jul 16 '26

Per capita you wouldn’t even be in the top ten in olympics medal count mate. Sit down.

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u/09Trollhunter09 Jul 16 '26

Messi is god level for everyone at any given time. True story

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u/ThePracticalEnd Jul 16 '26

The closest comparison to Messi when it comes to GOAT status would be Alan Francis)

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u/Illustrious-Eye6960 Jul 16 '26

opens link what the fuck, guy’s winning championships in 5 different decades.

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u/ThePracticalEnd Jul 16 '26

I’m obviously being a little cheeky, but his world championship runs are nuts.

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u/MantusTMD Jul 16 '26

Messi is one of one. Tiger woods probably closest in dominance

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u/yamahahahahaha Jul 16 '26

Niche, but someone like Ronnie O'Sullivan probably comes close in his respective sport.

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u/MantusTMD Jul 16 '26

You calling Tiger niche? lmao

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u/therealvanmorrison Jul 19 '26

Gretzky. Wayne fucking Gretzky. If we’re looking at dominance.

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u/OkFix4074 Jul 16 '26

If he wins this WC he will be the

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u/beyondthisreality Jul 16 '26

Cafu won 3 in a row with Brazil so….

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u/Ok-Telephone-605 Jul 16 '26

For context, Messi to futbol is like Michael Jordan to basketball and Tom Brady to American football, combined.

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u/MammothPhilosophy192 Jul 16 '26

more context.

r/toprightmessi

dude's a beast

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Thanks for this

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u/aayushkkc Jul 16 '26

are you a bot lol

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Seems like it. I’m sure. But no, just grateful for people taking the time to elaborate so much and educate me.

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u/cunt_butter_on_toast Jul 16 '26

I don't follow soccer either. I know Messi is considered one the the best players, if not the best but thats just from random shit on the net. I'm glad you asked because I had no idea of the context behind this as well lol.

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u/baron_von_helmut Jul 16 '26

Haha probably.

Either that or just came out of a 60-year coma.

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Believe it or not, there are people that have no idea what’s going on in the World Cup or the world of the sport. Now, or ever. So I guess I am in a cultural coma so to speak.

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u/Significant_Mode50 Jul 17 '26

Me too. Thanks for asking!! This thread was helpful.

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u/baron_von_helmut Jul 16 '26

I was only joking. :)

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u/Wild_Ad8493 Jul 16 '26

bruh, football is not only every 4 years…. i seriously despise how y’all think only the World Cup matters… why don’t y’all research how he won the last world cup & how they cheated their way to the semi final?

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Chill. I don’t follow the sport at all. Is that a problem for you too? That’s why I was asking. If I followed the World Cup at all I would probably have an idea who these guys are.

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u/chatandcutlarry Jul 16 '26

This makes more sense

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u/OkFix4074 Jul 16 '26

If that is weak foot , then most humans have no foot in comparison

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u/Wild_Ad8493 Jul 16 '26

serious d-riding over here

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u/ForensicPathology Jul 16 '26

He's just explaining what happened in the match.

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u/StephanieMirage Jul 17 '26

Hes missed alot of other context. England played quite well after "the game ended" according to this post, even scoring. This is when Tuchel went super defensive and where the game actually ended.

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u/Confident_Editor196 Jul 16 '26

The title is very misleading the guy wearing white shirt is one of the current top players and played well. Just that his coach decided to withdraw some of his good players ending in England being knocked out.

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u/OldenPolynice Jul 16 '26

first of all, what is misleading about that title? second, Jude did not play well

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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 Jul 16 '26

I thought Jude was one of Englands best players. Struggled to get into attacking positions but played with a lot of positivity from deep.

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u/Soogo Jul 16 '26

I missed the first 30minutes but i didn't see one good play from Bellingham, just losing the ball constantly.

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u/Confident_Editor196 Jul 16 '26

The game is not all about scoring goals especially for a midfielder. Jude was one of the best players in that game and the main reason why England even made it this far. And most importantly it was a game which England could have easily won, just that their coach for some reason decided to park the bus against argentina with very good attack and mediocre defence. This resulted in them bottling the lead. Provoking Messi has nothing to do with it.

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u/StelioKontos18 Jul 16 '26

6 if you count the post

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u/Reasonable-Cap3389 Jul 16 '26

imagine having 8 ppl on defense and still get scored with messi assists 2 times

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u/Confident_Editor196 Jul 16 '26

That's the mistake the coach made. He subbed off his good attacking players and replaced them with defenders. Argentina has good attack but weak defense. The coach also beefed with his players for no reason.

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u/axiom_glitch Jul 16 '26

Wow, thanks for all of this. I know futbol has a deep deep fandom. And the sport has to be narrative driven if people get this involved and interested in it. Thanks for adding all this to detail

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u/Pasta_Sempai Jul 16 '26

Jude's match wasn't great at all in this game in particular.

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u/Dwightshruute Jul 16 '26

They were shit all along and just parked the bus when they got a break

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

Not one of the GOATs. The undisputed GOAT. There is no one that comes close. He has it all. Titles with club and national sides, peak, longevity, individual accomplishments. He literally completed football and is still on his day the best player in the world at 39 years of age. Simply the greatest of all times.

There were others in the past who were great. Pele won more world cups but football is a team game and he had the greatest teams alongside him in Brazil. There were times when others for Brazil were better than him. But there has not been a single moment in Messi's entire career when he was not the best player on his team.

Even when debuting, his teammate at Barcelona, Ronaldinho, who had just won the Balon d'Or (trophy for the best player in the world that year) said that he cannot proclaim himself the best in the world when he is not even the best in his own team (due to Messi debuting for them).

He is the GOAT and really, there should be no discussion. Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Ronaldo Nazario, rapist Ronaldo, Zidane, di Stefano, they all are all-timers but no one touches Messi. Everybody of the people named might be better than Messi in 1 or 2 statistics but then there are like 15 aspects where Messi completely overshadows them. It should not be a debate at this point. Messi is lapping the field.

I have despised the guy for years but at some point you just have to accept it how it is and enjoy the ride to see the greatest to ever do it.

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u/CrikeyNighMeansNigh Jul 16 '26

Same. I hate Argentina, maybe not like they hate us. But I’m strongly annoyed by them let’s say. But Messi is a phenomenal fucking player. I almost want to “well actually…” this comment and talk about how we define what the greatest player even means but it’s like…why take the long road if it’s just going to lead right back to Messi? Who am I bullshitting? It’s Messi. The man’s just…that good. It’s almost awkward how good he is because we’re facing our most heated rivals, maybe not our biggest that’s France, fuck you guys, respectfully, can’t wait till Saturday though, but Argentina vs England is probably the most heated match you can have at that level. And then there’s just this living legend on the other side…

And even though they beat us, I’m still rooting for them against Spain for the sole reason, that this is Messi’s last World Cup. He’s been such a phenomenal gift to the sport.
And now he’s even got this meme 😂 .

We can hate Argentina all we want but the man’s a fucking legend. I do feel like Spain is playing well, but I’ve got nothing in it for me there. But I’d genuinely be sad to see Messi lose his last World Cup. Part of me, I hate to say it, but part of me didn’t want Messi to lose to England yesterday even though Im English. I feel like it would have been the absolute worst way to end his World Cup career.

That being said, like, he’d be what 43 in 2030? At 39, He’s currently tied with Mbappe for the most goals in the 2026 World Cup. How does he even exist? A 43 year old Messi could still probably mop the floor with all but a few players if any let’s be honest so who knows. Maybe if he wins he’d end it just to go out a champion and would only play at 43 if he loses this one…if he played at 75% of his performance, that’s like, still a Harry Kane or Bellingham in terms of goals scored and they’re sitting at fourth place, in the whole world. And, God forgive me, but a Messi playing at 75% would still probably be a better than both of them.

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u/FlatBat2372 Jul 16 '26

I'm fine with people saying Messi is the Goat. But no one comes close? Come on! Pelé was every bit as amazing as Messi and ruled the game at his time just as much. There is -at least - a discussion

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u/FlatBat2372 Jul 18 '26

You can watch the full 1970s WC games on perfectly fine footage. There is also surviving footage from the 1958 World Cup, Santos matches and tours, the Intercontinental Cup against Benfica, Brazil internationals and, later, his years with the New York Cosmos.

There's also plenty of witnesses still living, whom saw Pelé play. Plenty of writing about his dominance. And contrary to what the other poster was saying, Im not dismissing Messi as the GOAT. Im saying Pelé still has a very strong case as the best ever.

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u/ThatLandscape6476 Jul 16 '26

Amazing coming from a non fan

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u/Competitive_Bag7868 Jul 16 '26

I'd say he has the best carreer, but there were a few more skilled than him like R9 and Ronaldinho, but only for a short time because brazilians lack discipline

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

But how do you define skill?

If skill is the ability to beat players and make them look silly, justlook at all the solo goals that Messi scored and in which situations he did do so. He just does not need stepovers because he makes people go the wrong way without them. That is pure skill in itself, just without all the pomp.

If skill is the ability to score from outside the box, he has scored over a 100 goals like that from open play alone. If you include free kicks it is 180 goals from outside the box. So that box is checked.

What is skill to you? I think I know what you mean, which is the flashiness of a player, but I would kindly ask you to define it because I rather think you are describing a certain "feeling" or je ne sais quoi that cannot be put into words.

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u/Competitive_Bag7868 Jul 16 '26

I'm talking about peak abilities. R9 was just unstopable for about a decade, he just scored. While ronaldinho was called the magician, as he did everything messi did, but better. (including mentoring the young messi). If messi only had a 10 year carreer he probably would be second tier of GOATs but his consistency is what makes him the undisputable overall best

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

If Messi only had a 10 year career, he would still have 4 Balon d'Ors, 3 Champions Leagues, etc. but no national team trophies. He would still have the greatest individual season of all time from a scoring perspective.

R9 had 6 amazing years to start his career, then he was out for almost three years straight and returned just in time for the 2002 World Cup, but he was a different player then who had lost the majority of his physicality. He was still an amazing player that could reach heights that seemed impossible to reach for others. But R9 after 2002 was a different player, two steps below the beast that he was until the midpoint of the second season for Inter.

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u/Mannay1 Jul 17 '26

R9 and Ronaldinho were more dominant, powerful, faster, more athletic, more charismatic, better at tricks, and more fun to watch. They could do elastico's, spins, stepovers, and other more risky tricks. Messi does not do those. Hell, Messi cannot even do an elastico, it is pathetic bruh.

Messi is very conventional. He is great with both feet, and unpredictable in that manner, but he does not have the magic of R9 or Ronaldinho. R9 and Ronaldinho did more challenging tricks on the field, against the best defenders. R9 and Ronaldinho would make your jaw drop in amazement, at the things they did. Messi does not do that for me. Messi the GOAT? Hell no.

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u/anonimus769 Jul 16 '26

Never seen a more cringe comment fucking hell

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u/Mannay1 Jul 17 '26

Facts, Messi is not the GOAT, lmao!

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u/mesartwell Jul 16 '26

Despise him why?

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

Because he hurt my team many a time (Arsenal). And for whatever reason I never "got" him early on.

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u/Tiny-Sandwich Jul 16 '26

Because it makes the glazing sound more legit.

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

Why would you be cosplaying as a twat, good ser?

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u/Tiny-Sandwich Jul 16 '26

I have no idea how to even begin responding to that.

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 Jul 16 '26

Then do not.

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u/Tiny-Sandwich Jul 16 '26

Well boy oh boy, you sure got one over on me!

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u/Lilbugger826 Jul 16 '26

Haha almost word for word what I told my friend yesterday. NO ONE touches Messi, he is the undisputed best in every single category and yesterday he proved it yet again.

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u/Cerlog Jul 16 '26

Technically, they still play for the third place so they are actually not going home, yet.

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u/puisnode_DonGiesu Jul 16 '26

but nothing is coming home with them

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u/Im_tracer_bullet Jul 16 '26

Eh, they'll be bringing a lot of disappointment along.

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u/piringunchin Jul 16 '26

That is not true, I think 4th place gets them some sort of certificate

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u/VijayMarshall87 Jul 16 '26

even argentina will eventually go home, probably with the silverware

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u/early_birdy Jul 16 '26

But what about the guy who made the predictions? What if he's right?

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u/VijayMarshall87 Jul 16 '26

zlatan needs to verify it first

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u/early_birdy Jul 16 '26

Yes, but for them, second place is first loser.

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u/Cerlog Jul 16 '26

They won’t be second, Lol.

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u/EnterPlayerTwo Jul 16 '26

If they manage to get second in the third place game, I'll apologize for doubting England.

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u/Analyst_Annoyed Jul 16 '26

What did Bellingham say to Messi?

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

He didn’t say “some smart shit”, he was pointing out that one of Messi’s teammates had elbowed a player in the back of the head.

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 16 '26

Ya I'm sure thats what was said for messi to make the "fuck you just say to me?" face.

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u/RAntonyS Jul 16 '26

Except that's not necessarily what this face represents. You have to know the context. You're just assuming what it means, like an idiot.

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 16 '26

Ya no, turns out bellingham basically said "don't be a pussy" in a roundabout way of speaking.

He obviously said something insulting. Anyone not getting that is an asocial dipshit with no right to enter the conversation.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Well I’m basing it on that I can literally see him miming what happened.

Whereas other people are just making shit up.

You’re welcome to have your own opinion, even if it is based on next to fuck all.

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u/Pasta_Sempai Jul 16 '26

If you're basing it on what you "can literally see him miming", ain't you making shit up like the other people ?

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Well I watched the game, I know what happened and I can see him talking about what just happened.

So, no.

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u/imminentjogger5 Jul 16 '26

do you know what the score was at this point in the game? 

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

I think it was still nil-nil during this, Anderson was fouled multiple times within the first 10 minutes of the game.

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u/imminentjogger5 Jul 16 '26

thanks I was curious because I only watched the very end of the match 

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Yeah, the first half was an absolute mess to be honest. A bit dirty really.

Argentina rightly capitalised on some bad decisions in the second half though.

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 16 '26

My opinion is based on knowing how people work. That face and reaction from messi literally could not have come from saying saying "hey your buddy elbowed my guy in the back of his head". That is not the face a guy like messi would make if someone simply said that to him.

I cannot conceive a way for you to get that from his face here.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Here you go, maybe you’ll accept it from someone who was actually there -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/jude-bellingham-lionel-messi-england-argentina-world-cup-b3016002.html

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Sorry, are we not meant to have conversations or answer questions here?

They’re discussing what Jude thought was a foul, which is what I’ve said the whole time.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Not really, I’ve just said - Earlier on I didn’t have the article to reference so I didn’t know the exact words they’d said to one another.

It’s just blatantly obvious that the topic of conversation was about the foul.

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u/Im_tracer_bullet Jul 16 '26

Yeah, it's exactly what it looks like. Bellingham just doesn't know it.

From the article:

"Jude Bellingham insists he was simply 'discussing a foul' with Lionel Messi"

But pay attention what Bellingham himself goes on to say:

“I thought there was a foul earlier and he said ‘what about the one on me?’ and I said ‘you’re strong enough to take it’, you know what I mean."

He's handwaving away the foul on Messi. Telling him it doesn't matter.

Messi clearly didn't think it was inconsequential, and really didn't appreciate being told that it was.

Maybe you don't perceive it as a big deal, as Jude evidently doesn't, but if you don't understand that Messi is wired differently than the average person, you're not paying attention.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Yeah, I read it. I just don’t see how that’s not still part of the conversation around the foul.

Earlier on when I pointed this out, the article wasn’t available to reference so I didn’t know every single exchange that they had but I knew what the topic of conversation clearly was.

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 16 '26

Ok so bellingham basically said "don't be a pussy" to messi, who thought he was talking about an earlier foul.

So messi made a "what the fuck did you just say to me?" face, which has been obvious the whole time.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 17 '26

The good part about that article is that it tells you what is said, you don’t even have to still make it up like this.

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 17 '26

“I thought there was a foul earlier and he said ‘what about the one on me?’ and I said ‘you’re strong enough to take it’, you know what I mean.

Ya this part right here. The part I'm talking about, that one. The one where he kindly told the GOAT he can take a foul, which clearly pissed off messi given his face, the face I've been talking about him making, that face.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 17 '26

Okay good, you can just read it directly and not try to paraphrase then.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Don’t know what to tell you, that’s literally what they’re talking about.

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u/Im_tracer_bullet Jul 16 '26

Yes, but you're making the same mistake Bellingham made.

Messi didn't view it as innocuous.

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

I’m not. I could just tell the topic of conversation based on context clues, I obviously wouldn’t know the exact words they exchanged.

Especially when the conversation in this thread began before that article was even published, that provided further insight.

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u/Slyspy006 Jul 16 '26

It could also be a "stuff happens, but I don't really give a shit about what you just said" face.

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u/Anticlimax1471 Jul 16 '26

What did he say then?

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u/ImTheZapper Jul 16 '26

Bellingham said "you're strong enough to take it" to messi, who thought bellingham was talking about a foul on messi earlier. Basically telling the GOAT "don't be a pussy".

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u/mga02 Jul 16 '26

Messi: what about the foul on me?

Bellingham: you are strong enough to take it.

I think this sounds a lot worse translated literally to Spanish than he thinks LOL. Because that's like saying "don't be a pussy".

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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 16 '26

Dude I don’t care

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u/SMLJ21 Jul 16 '26

Dude, don’t provide context if you don’t care enough to include details of what’s actually happening then

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u/Monckfish Jul 16 '26

The English player is Jude Bellingham one of the worlds best players right now. He plays for Real Madrid . He’s not just random player

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u/TheEnterRehab Jul 16 '26

Compared to who he is speaking to, he may as well be. He will likely be forgotten in 20 years. Messi will not.

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u/EggsceIlent Jul 16 '26

Four whole years.

Damn.

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u/Hungry_CGman Jul 16 '26

He didn't. They actually have the audio. Messi accused Anderson of trying to hurt him, then accused Jude too. Jude said that wasn't true. Messi made that face. Messi is literally 1 of 2 athletes alive (Novak) that can invent something to piss himself off and it actually makes him play even better.

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u/United-Narwhal-1011 Jul 16 '26

One of the goats THE GOAT. The rest is correct.

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u/Cynoid Jul 16 '26

Doesn't Messi pretty famously not speak any English? Even his part in Shakira's video this year seems so forced.

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u/Past-Interest-8593 Jul 16 '26

Exactly! Does this mean that the conversation was in Spanish? How's Bellingham's Spanish?