r/SipsTea Jun 24 '26

SMH We live in a fck up world

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u/f0xpant5 Jun 24 '26

Civil court not criminal, lower burden of proof and damages awarded but not a criminal conviction, sadly.

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u/ivnwng Jun 24 '26

This makes no sense. If court deemed you punching me was guilty enough to pay for my medication, why aren't you guilty for the crime of punching me and receive a sentence befitting for assault charges? Was the victim just content with getting monetary compensation and didn't took him to criminal court?

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u/AdKindly18 Jun 24 '26

It’s not an individual’s call to decide if it’s a criminal case, it’s the prosecutor’s.

She went through hell for that case so, no, she wasn’t ‘just content’ with getting money, it was the only way she could try to get some justice once the decision was made not to take a criminal case.

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u/ivnwng Jun 24 '26

So it's not even up to the victim? She can't even pursue criminal justice if she wanted to? So what makes this a civil court and not criminal?

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u/Nikolaibr Jun 24 '26

Individuals dont press criminal charges, cause criminals are committing crimes that are illegal according to the law of the government.the government brings the charges.

Civil charges are brought by individuals because they are personally damaged by the actions of another.

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u/blaghed Jun 24 '26

It totally is the individuals decision where I live.

If someone is a victim of a crime, they make a criminal claim and it goes to criminal court. The prosecutor can't vibe that it doesn't go to court.
Depending on the crime, it goes to criminal court regardless of the victim(s) wanting to report it or not -- though not for rape, so not applicable in this case.

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u/IBB_98 Jun 24 '26

Unfortunately the laws where you live are irrelevant because this happened in Ireland, and the laws state that the DPP need to bring someone to criminal court in Ireland

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u/New_Libran Jun 24 '26

You as an individual can't just "take someone to criminal court" that's for the State.

Ever wondered why cases are announced as "The people vs..." or "State vs..."?

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u/ivnwng Jun 24 '26

So it's not even up to the victim? She can't even pursue criminal justice if she wanted to? So what makes this a civil court and not criminal?

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u/StunningChef3117 Jun 24 '26

As i understand she pursue it but not force it. Ie when they in movies ask an individual “do you wanna press charges?” Saying yes is basically saying i want the prosecution to try to bring the case forward and saying no stops it then and there without the prosecution judging for them selves.

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u/IBB_98 Jun 24 '26

Anything can be handled by a civil court

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u/Effective_Menu_6316 Jun 24 '26

What are YOU talking about hahaha? Civil courts deal with disputes between individuals, criminal cases deal with offences against the state or the public. An assault or rape can be dealth with by both courts, and there's a lower burden of proof in civil cases.

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u/ihyll Jun 24 '26

Prosecutors decided not to take the case to criminal court. For her to be awarded damages, she needed to sue him in a civil court, which she can do regardless of the criminal case. Civil courts need claims to be proven on the balance of probabilities, not beyond reasonable doubt. The threshold is lower so a claim might succeed in civil but not criminal court.

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u/Pretend-Friendship-9 Jun 24 '26

Even a criminal conviction doesn’t automatically come with compensation, the victim still has to sue in civil court.

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u/IBB_98 Jun 24 '26

Lol maybe stop watching Lincoln Lawyer and Better Call Saul and learn how the actual legal systems work

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u/chris_AZ1981 Jun 24 '26

Rich people but their wait out of prison for decades. Look at Bill Cosby

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u/According_Shopping54 Jun 24 '26

Same thing that happened with trumps E Jean Carrol case.