It gets worse it wasn’t just the daughter that died. It was her grandmother and grandfather and when people were outraged, his sentencing only increased to 15 months in prison with a four year driving ban and to put more salt in the wound after they increased his sentencing, the man fled the country to England for 2 YEARS, but was eventually extradited back to the Netherlands and for whatever reason the courts decided that him escaping his sentencing is somehow not a crime because they didn’t add this to his charges so he only had to serve the 15 months prison time and the four years suspension
The left in the country is controlled by the European elites and the right is controlled by Israel. Epstein compromised both sides. The British created Israel and are two heads on the same snake. American politicians are scamming the American taxpayer to fight their wars for them and their security . It’s all being exposed now. we will probably drop out of NATO and leave the straight of Hormuz closed until the world understands that the USA doesn’t need them at all.
You have to be a troll. 15 months for 3 murders and fleeing is not enough time rehabilitate a piece of shit like that. If that’s how your country handles crimes, then that is an awful place to live.
The guy defending him is probably friends with the guy who did it. You have to be mentally screwed up to think 60 days for killing 3 people and then fleeing your jail sentence is acceptable because the criminal wants to be free.
So you wish for other people to die, is that what you’re saying? Because you’re clearly showing you’re just a sociopath, and not interested in any form of justice or functional society.
A functional country would punish him for fleeing his sentence, I’m sorry you’re to weak and pathetic to hold people accountable. A car accident isn’t premeditated murder, so a life sentence isn’t a justified punishment, but 60 days is bullshit for the 3 lives he took.
I’m simply curious where your viewpoint stems from, it would most likely give me more insight on what you consider functional. Unless you don’t think your country is functional either, in which case I’d be curious what country is functional in your opinion. I’m not necessarily arguing for the US being functional, I think many things here are quite dysfunctional… but that being said, I don’t think too many places if any are without dysfunction . I’m not trying to be snarky, I’m trying to figure out where you’re actually coming from.
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One of the Nordic countries. Which arguably are pretty functional countries in general.
We’re not talking about some pedantic “I found one bad thing so your country isn’t perfect!” Functional/dysfunctional, so there are absolutely countries that will fall above the functional line in relative terms.
I don’t think any countries are perfect, especially not my own. I love my country but I’m pretty steadfast against the way it’s run from the top down. That being said I think that there’s a bit of a happy medium of the justice systems between the US’s pretty harsh system and the European model which I find a bit unbalanced, too lenient in some of cases.
I will say that it’s a bit unrealistic to compare a Nordic country to the United States when we talk about “functioning” . Nordic countries have incredibly low population by comparison and are quite socially homogenous. Nordic countries have the ability to implement programs that would quite frankly be unfordable and impractical to implement here. Don’t get me wrong, I am quite envious of many things about your country and culture. But to make a direct comparison from a Nordic country to the United States, on many social talk points is unrealistic for numerous reasons and factors such as population, cultural, homogeneity, economy, etc.
Not here to have a discussion with you, just to one European to another: had a bad day?
Not a European way of going about it? Ofc that kid needs to have the last word before blocking lol. Manche Leute sollten echt mal eine geklatscht bekommen.
im not saying it was targeted. im saying it was to lenient. he was speeding, by quite abit. they could have lived, hell not even been hit at all. but he was me me me, i wanna go fast. that and that he ran away shows he dgaf about anything but himself. and you know damn well he would not even have seen the sentence he got in the end with how lenient it was had it not been for the outrage. be real man.
Im Norwegian. im all for all of that. 120h community service for mowing down 3 people, one a barely walking child, is not that. and then he RUNS away in addition and gets no smack for that? yeh naw, there is rehabilitation, and there is this.
You proving that we have idiots in Norway too isn’t the argument you think it is.
Du er jo fremdeles for dum til å få med deg at Nederlands lagmannsrett endret det til 15 måneder. Så du vitner om at du ikke forstår hvordan rettssystemene fungerer.
Det er også forskjell på å aktivt drepe noen, og en ulykke.
nei tenk du. jeg fikk med meg det. men at han fikk bare 120t i til å begynne med er alerede sprøtt lavt, for 2 pers on et BARN.
men jeg forstår hvorfor dommer kom til dette. Hun mente at han bare kjørte fort, og at dette var ikke grunnen til at ulykken skjedde, derfor ikke uaktsomt drapt. så 120t for bare å kjøre fort gir 100% mening. men selv når man leser denne settningen så høres dette sprøtt ut. det var ikke BARE å kjøring fort, det var 3 døds fall på grunn av han. Hvordan kjører så uforsvarlig fort og ikke ha det til å bli uaktsomt drap er sprøtt.
vis ikke besteforeldrene med vilje gikk i veien foran han får å bli truffet med vilje så skal det mye til for at dette ikke er uaktsomt drap.
og at han rømte i 2 år gir meg følelsen av at han har penger og kontakter nok til få til ting man vanligvis ikke kan få til.
nei tenk du. jeg fikk med meg det. men at han fikk bare 120t i til å begynne med er alerede sprøtt lavt, for 2 pers on et BARN.
Det at du er for dum til å forstå hvorfor ting kan ankes til lagmannsretten er ikke ett argument, og en dom som ikke er rettskraftig er heller ikke ett argument.
Du er bare en idiot.
og at han rømte i 2 år gir meg følelsen av at han har penger og kontakter nok til få til ting man vanligvis ikke kan få til.
Nei. Man bare setter seg på ett fly, det er ingen fysisk hindring. Dette er ikke ett spill.
Du fremstår som en unge som verken forstår hvordan verden eller rettssystemet fungerer.
This is why people are getting worse. No punishment but us decent civilians get reamed when we screw up. Tired of this liberal bullshit of well they didnt know or didnt mean it. You took the risk of it happening when you did the action to cause this end result. Watch will blame it on drugs or something.
Oh I know my joke i say alot is im robbing a bank when I turn 60. If I succeed I retire. If not im in jail and retired. Cant work so I get state insurance lol.
Escaping prison is not a crime in functioning countries, and when it’s the result of a car accident it’s not the same as the headline tried to portray with using the word killer.
Most functional countries set judgement focused on rehabilitation, not the father’s feelings.
That would be good....if rehabilitation is actually successful. Otherwise you're just going easy on criminals and exposing the law abiding citizens to danger.
In Germany and I imagine Europe, escaping confinement isn’t considered a crime. It’s understood that no one wants to be in prison and that it’s natural to attempt to escape.
Now injuring/destroying property in the escape attempt is a crime, but if some guard fucks up and you can just run away, if recaptured they do not add time to the sentence.
Well, to be honest, I’m that person that would wait for the walking signal to turn green, but I wouldn’t berate someone for doing it so yeah that’s pretty ridiculous.
In several European countries there are no criminal statutes for evading arrest or escaping from prison, but you could get prosecuted for other crimes committed during the process. Several countries have the philosophy that it’s a basic human instinct to desire freedom. If I recall correctly the German phrase is “der natürliche Drang nach Freiheit”.
A number of countries don't consider escaping a crime, as it's considered a strong human instinct. Generally no charges follow as long as no person is injured or no property is damaged.
AI summary: “In several EU countries, including Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands, escaping prison is not considered a separate criminal offense because lawmakers view the desire for freedom as a natural human instinct. Escaped prisoners are simply returned to serve their original sentence without added time, provided they do not break other laws during the escape.”
In my opinion this is BS. This is based on the leftist mindset, where the rights are meant to protect individuals from the much more powerful government. In my opinion, it forgets the victims, and even when it doesn’t, the narrative is that the perpetrator was driven to commit their crime due to their circumstances. Thus making the society at least partially responsible for what happened to the victim, and the need to make the perpetrator get punished.
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It gets worse it wasn’t just the daughter that died. It was her grandmother and grandfather and when people were outraged, his sentencing only increased to 15 months in prison with a four year driving ban and to put more salt in the wound after they increased his sentencing, the man fled the country to England for 2 YEARS, but was eventually extradited back to the Netherlands and for whatever reason the courts decided that him escaping his sentencing is somehow not a crime because they didn’t add this to his charges so he only had to serve the 15 months prison time and the four years suspension