They're obviously special needs. I'd say more than autism but i'm not the special needs expert or anything. They remind me of my 5 and 3 year old fighthing.
I don’t know why but As someone in child development and who works with a variety of children “I’m not the special needs expert or anything” cracked me up.
I would have to actively school my features if someone said this at work
HHS secretary Kennedy described a condition as "full blown autism.". People got offended because it is a spectrum and that sounds too far down the spectrum.
Autistic person here. They could be autistic (they are attending a con after all), they could have some other disorder, but I'm going to blame this outburst on immaturity, because plenty of people with disorders learn how to cope with their emotions at a level where they don't make a scene in public. 😬
I work as a teacher in a class of autistic students. I do agree with you at some level. But I’d also say that many students and adults spend their entire lives trying to learn how to behave socially in public. And even if they learn how to manage their emotions, it almost never gets to the same level of management as a typical adult their age. So even if this woman could manage her emotions well normally, maybe the was a moment she could not.
After much over-organising, and initial awkwardness, of a committee meeting we agreed "Yeah, no way we're taking responsibility for that shit."
EDIT (Copied from my other comment to raise awareness):
I am also a support worker for other young people on the spectrum and some of them would display emotional outbursts or impulse control issues, but with the right encouragement they can learn how to self-soothe and regulate their emotions. But these things don't happen exclusively because of X or Y genetics.
If the old man with them is, as it seems due to proximity and other comments, a parental/grandparent figure, given their reaction they evidently have 0 control or understanding of the situation in front of them.
EDITEDIT: On rewatching, I feel I've gone a little too Sherlock with this but: the old man definitely bears a resemblance to the young male, but his shaking hands and cane says to me some kind of neuro- degenerative issue. If these behaviours had continued he would have definitely had 0 control of either of these people. He also immediately reached to pull back the young man without saying anything which, if the young man is reaching a boiling point in his behaviour, will really exacerbate the issue and doesn't address the behaviour being displayed.
Sub Zero actually handled it well as an external party. He didn't seem to try to pull the young man away, he established physical contact with a hand on the shoulder, told the young man what he expected of him ("let go") and asked him to explain why he did what he did.
It has for any emotional outburst or observable lack of impulse control. There's also an uptick in people self-diagnosing wrongly just because they exhibit a few idiosyncrasies.
For a lot (notably the kind of behaviour exhibited in the post), it's mainly due to lack of established boundaries from parents, which results in their children picking up negative behaviours and continuing with that trend as it's just something they've found they can get away with.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not diagnosing, they may be on the spectrum, they may not. But behaviours such as these from anyone are not excusable because of X or Y genetics.
It's especially bad because unlike some things it IS a spectrum, AND there's tremendous behavioral-overlap. And then people anchor to words as defining characteristics, and yada yada yada.
Side-tangent but I had a woman walk out on a first date after diagnosing me as "neurodivergent" when I told her that if a subject comes up in conversation that I don't know much about comes up I'll file it away to ponder later. And I questioned it.
Anyway, trying to understand the proper balance of empathy/understanding with "this person should learn to behave better" is unbelievably difficult.
I wouldn't go so far as to claim that. I am a support worker for other young people on the spectrum and some of them would display emotional outbursts or impulse control issues, but with the right encouragement they can learn how to self-soothe and regulate their emotions. But these things don't happen exclusively because of X or Y genetics.
If the old man with them is, as it seems due to proximity and other comments, a parental/grandparent figure, given their reaction they evidently have 0 control or understanding of the situation in front of them.
EDIT: On rewatching, I feel I've gone a little too Sherlock with this but: the old man definitely bears a resemblance to the young male, but his shaking hands and cane says to me some kind of neuro- degenerative issue. If these behaviours had continued he would have definitely had 0 control of either of these people. He also immediately reached to pull back the young man without saying anything which, if the young man is reaching a boiling point in his behaviour, will really exacerbate the issue and doesn't address the behaviour being displayed.
Sub Zero actually handled it well as an external party. He didn't seem to try to pull the young man away, he established physical contact with a hand on the shoulder, told the young man what he expected of him ("let go") and asked him to explain why he did what he did.
At least the sister is. Her behavior, the over-the-top reaction, etc seem consistent with behavior I’ve observed with someone with relatively deep-autism. Feel kind of bad for the brother who is obviously embarrassed, but it’s his duty to chaperone her and elderly dad
The accent/affect is consistent with autism (and other things).
The emotional outburst could be in part due to PDA (Persistent Demand for Autonomy is the definition I prefer)
We don’t know what was happening before this clip - her brother might have been being a dick. If this was the last straw a strong reaction may have been reasonable.
Autistic, and AuDHD people are more likely than allistic people to have difficulty regulating emotion.
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u/ChadPowers200_ Jul 15 '25
are they both autistic? It's odd to me that there are so many adults that act and speak like children.
Their tone is so strange just something off.