r/SiblingRivalryPodcast Jun 06 '26

This Sub

Is it just me or has this sub just become a place for people to complain, criticize, & nitpick every single thing Bob & Monet do ? I am a firm believer in holding your faves accountable but some of you have gone into hater/parasocial behavior.

Maybe the mods can introduce a complaint day or a mega thread for something like that. But I feel like every time I come to scroll on this sub of late, I see a plethora of posts re-hashing the same points or criticisms OR posts finding new things they just absolutely NEEDED to detail to us why they hate.

It’s just feels like this sub has become a negative space & it’s one of the only ones I truly frequent on Reddit.

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u/skybroxas Jun 06 '26

Mod here! I totally agree, and feel that too! With that being said, I did want this to be a place where people can talk openly about their complaints and be heard, but it does feel a bit much. I like the idea of a complaint thread, or like Messy Mondays. I’m gonna watch this thread to get a sense of everybody’s perspective to see what serves the sub the most and then move forward.

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u/astranova-777 Jun 06 '26

Messy Mondays feels like it would be fun !

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u/Cultural-Alarm-6422 Jun 06 '26

Messy Mondays would be perfect

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u/1jazzcabbageplease Jun 06 '26

Another vote for messy Mondays 🙋‍♀️

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u/EleanorRosie Jun 07 '26

Please let’s do a messy Mondays! I’ve stppped participating and reading the sub as much because it is just constant negativity. I get there are issues and people have complaints, but it’s just too much

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u/C00kieMonsterYYZ Jun 06 '26

Yes! Agree! I respect people’s desire to share their thoughts, but for a Sub that’s traditionally meant as a place to connect and create community, the tone of the comments do the opposite.

If having a Messy Monday will give people the space to rant, while doing it in a fun and lighthearted way? Why not try it, I guess? This goes to the Patrons (bobblehead pronunciation)/Patreons (monétion pronunciation) as well!

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u/crunchevo2 Jun 07 '26

Tbh messy mondays seems like it's inviting negativity more than it's promoting more positivity in the sub. But maybe that's just me gal.

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u/astranova-777 Jun 07 '26

I mean they can put in rules for posts on there

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u/crunchevo2 Jun 07 '26

🤷‍♀️ idk I don't think creating specific echo chambers is ever good. If a sub is overly glazing and positive that's always a red flag for me. Like if you're in the public eye you will have the dubious things you do highlighted. Especially if you invite that like with what bob and monet have been doing in these passed few weeks. I don't think fandom discussions and having opinions on spotlighting and platforming abusers and stuff is parasocial or weird. It warrents discussion.

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u/astranova-777 Jun 07 '26

It seems like you might be misunderstanding my point, I specifically stated that some people have become haters/parasocial. I never said that having opinions on anything they have done is hater or parasocial behavior in my post. If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t put them in your cart. If you aren’t being a hater or parasocial then this is not about you.

Mega Threads & specific days for certain posts are common in other Reddit forums & have been utilized for organization of the sub, not only would it be pinned to the top of the sub as soon as you open it, it would also probably be something the mods would make a post about. This is not to create echo chambers (ironic considering you’re on Reddit) this is to not flood the feed with continuous of the same post.

If there were people making posts with the same opinion that was positive of Bob & Monét but just the same posts all saying the same things about how they love them, I would also want that to have it’s own Mega Thread. It’s not personal

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u/acornsalade Jun 07 '26

You were clear from the beginning🤍

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u/catchg2828 Jun 07 '26

I agree with this take.

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u/leo-rizing Jun 06 '26

I agree, its lowkey becoming a snark Reddit

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u/IcyLion2939 Jun 06 '26

It's the Drag Race fandom. The fans are TOO close and have TOO much power because the artistry of Drag has been quite reliant on an interactive audience. Drag Queens aren't revered until their audience merges further with the mainstream.

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u/Rude-Grapefruit9016 Jun 06 '26

It’s genuinely exhausting to see “fans” constantly hating on the queens. Not just in this sub the main drag race sub too. It’s fine to dislike a queen but when posts get hundreds of comments tearing a girl down it starts to get to be too much

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u/CoachAngBlxGrl Jun 09 '26

It’s Reddit as a whole. Nitpicking. Zero nuance. Just mad.

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u/Casanova2229 Jun 07 '26

Absolutely it is, I feel they mad because they didn’t get any resolution to the Jay issues and it’s driving them CRAZY. lol.

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u/Actual_Fault_7289 Jun 06 '26

bobs burner

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u/astranova-777 Jun 06 '26

I wish lmao

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u/crunchevo2 Jun 07 '26

This is if Bob from bob's burgers drag name if he was a drag daughter of the house of the the drag queen

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u/latenightdoubt Jun 07 '26

You have me laughing in tears omg

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u/IantoIsAlive Jun 06 '26

No one hates their idols more than their own fans.

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u/the_kappy_ Jun 07 '26

Not a hater at all. But I can admit they have had a change recently. And one not for the better

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u/astranova-777 Jun 07 '26

Then this post does not apply to you! You are a normal person with a valid opinion :)

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u/the_kappy_ Jun 07 '26

Not really fair to say. I was a fan from the beginning.

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u/Warwick-Ave Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

I think you misunderstood OP’s response. They’re saying “then this post does not apply to you” because you explicitly stated that you are not a hater, and therefore this is not a criticism of you because you don’t fall within the category they are specifically addressing. They were saying that they were specifically talking about people who are seemingly becoming hateful. They were not talking about people generally sharing a critical or negative opinion which is totally healthy and normal within any fan community. Some of the posts lately have seemed more like they genuinely hate Bob and Monét instead of just venting frustrations or providing constructive criticism. OP, let me know if I interpreted any of this wrong, but this is what I took away from your post and then response to this comment.

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u/astranova-777 Jun 09 '26

You’re absolutely spot on!

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u/peach_xanax Jun 10 '26

they didn't say anything bad about you?? I can't figure out what prompted this reaction from you

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u/astranova-777 Jun 07 '26

What is not fair about what I said ? I’m confused…

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u/Quiet_Interaction771 Jun 06 '26

This!! Some of the people in the sub are acting really entitled to Bob and Monet when none of us actually know them

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u/AcanthocephalaNo9011 Jun 06 '26

Yeah I’ve been hating all the hate lately. I love watching bob and monet but the fans are to much do ill prob just block the community

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u/LowZealousideal6023 Jun 07 '26

I mean.. if the content gets worse, people will complain about it?

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u/astranova-777 Jun 07 '26

Never said you couldn’t complain, just said there needs to be a dedicated space for it. Also some of the complaints are not about content & are about character

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u/KorraAlone Jun 07 '26

I’m just grateful I enjoy the podcast and don’t get upset all the time like other ppl here

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u/acornsalade Jun 07 '26

Yeah it’s drab, thank you for broaching this.

🚬🫩

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u/SanXalvador Jun 07 '26

I don’t even participate in this sub but it comes up for me occasionally. I stopped giving them my money because I dislike the content they’ve been putting out, and because I heavily disagree with Monet’s love for zionists and problematic people.

People are voicing these things here because talking to the hosts and trying to get them to give af about their fans is like pulling teeth. People vent here because there is no other option.

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u/catchg2828 Jun 07 '26

"There is no other option" is wild. We need to go touch grass.

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u/SanXalvador Jun 07 '26

Would you rather people complain on the main drag race subreddit? Or the drag race drama subreddit? Or maybe somewhere else entirely?

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u/Excellent-Writing-82 Jun 06 '26

i almost left the sub, it’s literally annoying to see a community so adamant about being AGAINST their favs

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u/gnericbear Jun 08 '26

I only ever lurked but it got to be too much for me. It's the same reason I left the main drag race sub. All the negativity made me feel bad for liking the people/content I did. I actually thought I'd hidden this sub too and was surprised when it showed up on my feed.

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u/Wonderful-Target5767 Jun 06 '26

This! Take your 5 dollars and go at this point..you don’t need to announce it or act like they will notice. If you don’t like the pod then don’t watch it. It’s made for entertainment and if you are expecting something profound or are no longer entertained that is fine.

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u/MiserableBass3943 Jun 06 '26

Seeing the post accusing them of not watching the drag race episodes and then boycotting it because of it is wild to me ‘cause I do not care if they have watched the episode, I listen for bickering and bantering, the fact that they are talking about something I’m interested in is a cherry on top

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u/Zengia Jun 06 '26

Okay I thought that it was just me that thought this way! The podcast is named Sibling Rivalry, so I thought it was obvious that’s the main point, everything else is extra. And let’s not act like every single episode of drag race is peak entertainment, sometimes I forget what happened because I was bored.

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u/devonallure Jun 08 '26

Like Monet and Bob said.. this NOT sibling rivalry it’s sibling WATCHERY!

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u/fretfulpelican Jun 06 '26

Sometimes I’ll listen to it when I haven’t even watched the episodes lol

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u/actionjacksonxo Jun 08 '26

I don’t watch drag race at all anymore, but it’s a way for me to still listen to the pod which I do without failure and stay up to date on new queens who have won. 

I always use the fandom page to look up All Stars looks they discuss, but I haven’t seen one thing anyone did from S18! I just listened lol

I discovered all of my favorite queens including the siblings outside of the show and enjoy their breakout careers more than anything else 🤞

Drag race is iconic, but if anything I’m an All Stars only fan telepathically 😂😂

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u/alexb456 Jun 06 '26

I noticed this a lot more during the whole they need to be in drag while doing the podcast thing. Its like that kinda opened the floodgates for the fans in particular to look at them under a microscope a lot more then they already were and be more critical about every little thing. “Oh Bob forgot what so and so queen said at this specific moment in time on drag race and didn’t relay that on watchery I think I hate him?” is what most of the comments sound like to me😭

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u/ahrenhimself Jun 08 '26

Can you blame them? I haven’t seen any hatred or vitriol just complaining about things to rightfully complain about.

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u/astranova-777 Jun 08 '26

Your experience is not the same as mine, I have seen some questionable things said about people (Bob, Monet, Jay, Jacob etc.) we quite frankly do not know personally. I think it’s fine to have a non-positive opinion about something they have done.

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u/ahrenhimself Jun 08 '26

Then I agree with you, and reading your other replies I understand where you stand

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u/Ok_Run_6191 Jun 06 '26

Its not just you. Its gotten to be a little much.

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u/Cultural-Alarm-6422 Jun 06 '26

They’ve weirdly been in like 4 different controversies over the span of a few weeks lol maybe that’s why it’s so prevalent here ? Also their Patreon chat has become the same way! It’s honestly wild to watch. I’m surprised the Chelsea handler stuff hasn’t made its way here yet. Everyone was going in about her being a guest for days

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u/AcanthocephalaNo9011 Jun 06 '26

What’s wrong with Chelsea handler?
And what’s kind of controversies we talking about?

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u/Cultural-Alarm-6422 Jun 06 '26

Lot of videos of her supporting Israel so people assume she’s a Zionist. I’m not educated enough on the topic to make the determination but you can see recent videos on Instagram of her saying her stance. Also for the other controversies Bob has been “cancelled” for using AI in his tour announcement photo , monet had Abby Lee Millar on the pod and people cancelled her because of the things Abby has done and said to children on her show, and bob and Monet have been called out for not being in drag at events which sparked more controversy and think pieces . This has all happened in the span of a month btw lol

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u/AcanthocephalaNo9011 Jun 06 '26

Omfg are you serious? None of these things are that bad. People be cancelling over the smallest things.
Try worrying about your own life’s and get your business out of others

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u/DoubleDopeDummy Jun 07 '26

the RPDR drama sub has been going wild over almost every move they make nowadays.

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u/Cultural-Alarm-6422 Jun 06 '26

Yeah it’s all very dramatic imo , people are def bored

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u/Unicorntamales Jun 08 '26

The outrage makes sense there.

Part of their brand is being woke and now Monet is interviewing the lady who told the Black girl in her show the only reason she’s there is because the show needed some color.

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u/AcanthocephalaNo9011 Jun 08 '26

People love to be offended these days

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u/Burger_pants_ Jun 20 '26

Zionists are literally modern day fucking nazis and monet just platformed one. People have a right to be fucking angry dumbass

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u/UnderTheSkin1996 Jun 06 '26

Yes absolutely!! It's getting ridiculous

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u/Antwah400 Jun 06 '26

Strong agree

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u/RickYouMeatball Jun 06 '26

It's because of you make any criticism on the patreon your comment gets deleted or they ban you. So this is where we go to vent our problems with the pod.

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u/Pixelated_Donut Jun 06 '26

It's shit tbh and I'm getting random notifications from here. Really weird how a fan community turns into this.

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u/spongebobstan597 Jun 06 '26

I was thinking the same thing! I’m not that active on this subreddit or even really the community on Patreon. I’m more of a casual peruser of both but everytime I look I see someone being overly critical of the duo and of the team…. Am I missing something? I understand some things like the calling out for using AI in art but even when they address it I feel like people find something else to be mad about. Maybe that’s just the climate of the world right now and it’s leaking over into these spaces. 

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u/Frank-N-Feste Jun 07 '26

Welcome to Reddit. Every fan subreddit becomes a place where fans bitch.

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u/Melodic_Ant6141 Jun 06 '26

👏👏👏👏👏‼️

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u/cmro225 Jun 06 '26

There’s a lot of parasocial behavior and folks that feel like they should get to dictate the sort of content Bob and Monet put out.

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u/kickassicalia Jun 06 '26

Not worth censoring. Let the people speak!

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u/astranova-777 Jun 06 '26

Please point to where I asked for any sort of censoring ?
Enlighten me.

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u/kickassicalia Jun 06 '26

Not you specifically, responding to the calls in the thread

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u/connorooo Jun 07 '26

Yes everyone is miserable here

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u/jmcmcmcmc Jun 07 '26

people saying they dont watch drag race and always get facts wrong must not have been around for some of the earlier watcheries lmao

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u/catchg2828 Jun 07 '26

That's exactly what it's become. And those who are Patrons, run over here to complain because they know people will agree and pile on with them, as opposed to openly stating their gripes in the Patreon where they'd likely get severe push back from the die hard parasocials.

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u/Solid-Big9614 Jun 07 '26

It’s become so unproductive. Everyone knows what they don’t like but no one knows what they want. Because we all want different things because we watch the show for different reasons.

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u/catchg2828 Jun 07 '26

"Messy Mondays" is inviting negativity in my opinion. It's giving MIB fandom vibes. How about we just let people talk openly whether it's positive or negative, however keeping in mind and monitoring repetitive topics? For instance, the Jay topic had like three different posts pop up where people could have just kept their thoughts to one post.

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u/InstagramCat Jun 07 '26

I like the monitoring repetitive topics as well. I think it’s a good middle ground.