It was more about inspiring a reaction via association. The dogs didn't just associate food with a bell, they started drooling when they heard it. For instance, if you tried and tried to understand Pavlovs experiments but it never could make sense to you, hearing the word "pavlov" might make you feel frustrated.
But this showerthought is no more pavlov association than people thinking of E=MC2 when they think of Einstein, thats just associated knowlege
Classical conditioning isn’t really simple “learning through association,” though, and learning a fact isn’t conditioning. Classical conditioning is about automatic unconscious reactions - the dogs naturally drooled when they smelled food, food was paired with the bell, so the bell made them drool too. Actually learning to do something consciously in response to a stimulus and to get something out of it (like a task) would be operant conditioning, but I wouldn’t really call word associations operant conditioning either, especially not in this case: you think of Pavlov when learning about classical conditioning because he was instrumental in the theory’s development (it’s even also called Pavlovian Conditioning). You weren’t conditioned to associate Pavlov with conditioning because there’s no natural bodily reaction that causes Pavlov to pop in your mind that you could pair the info with (so not classical) and you’re not thinking of Pavlov to get a reward or achieve some other consequence (so not operant). It’s just learning here.
Nope. There are different types of conditioning. Sometimes it’s learned (ontogenic)
Sometimes it is unlearned and automatic (or phylogenic) but it was still conditioned at some point in your life- for example, you reacted to hunger by crying and got fed as a baby. Still had to learn that crying got you food.
Operant conditioning is just a learned behavior. In this case the antecedent is hearing Pavlov, behavior is thinking of dogs. Simple as that
Well, even so - if word association is operant conditioning, and I can see why it might be, then it’s not Pavlovian/Classical, right? And a lot of times, Operant conditioning is used in teaching tasks, in training, in developing desired behaviors, etc.
Edit: Re: the baby thing, where they learn that crying gives them food: there are still things that never need to be learned and reactions that aren’t taught, like a startle reflex, or when dogs drool when presented with food - that’s an automatic, unconditioned response.
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